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#963041 - 02/23/13 04:02 PM new weather stripping question?  
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Anyone got new weather stripping for their car recently? I should just need it for the doors and trunk. Curious about what brand is the best and where you've found the best prices.

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#963046 - 02/23/13 04:11 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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www.mikesmontes.com I used factory on my car, don't know if that is still available. Good luck.


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#963059 - 02/23/13 07:52 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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I would use GM for the doors if you can afford it. Nothing else seems to fit right.

Rt Dr Lower #20277448
Lf Dr Lower #20277449
Rt Dr Roof Rail #20737658
Lf Dr Roof Rail #20737659

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NOS-78-88-MONTE-C...#ht_1116wt_1163


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#963083 - 02/24/13 01:00 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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I bought these, they were cheap and I'm poor so it worked out. Looks good, fits good, easy install. No complaints here.

(outer only)
http://www.partstrain.com/store/details/...de-comma-_Outer

(outer and inner)
http://www.partstrain.com/store/details/..._Inner_Or_Outer

(trunk)
http://www.partstrain.com/store/details/...M71MW00101.html

#963098 - 02/24/13 02:38 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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$199 9pc door and trunk kit ---door seals roofrail seals-- inner and outer door sweeps --and trunk seal


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#963152 - 02/24/13 05:30 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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Are those GM or something else?



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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/519099/1987-chevrolet-monte-carlo
#963154 - 02/24/13 06:00 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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soffseal --Gm are good but this kit would cost almost $1000 Gm


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#963156 - 02/24/13 06:10 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: MikesMontes]  
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Originally Posted By: MikesMontes
soffseal --Gm are good but this kit would cost almost $1000 Gm


MIke got any nos lower door seals??


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#963184 - 02/25/13 12:19 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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From my experience, aftermarket roof rail seals work okay, but only GM door seals fit right. Aftermarket door seals have incorrect end pads that do not mesh right with any brand of roof rail seal. You also can't get a correct seal with bad door hinges.


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#963185 - 02/25/13 12:49 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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I believe the drivers side door seals are now discontinued by GM

#963186 - 02/25/13 01:44 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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couple sets in stock


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#963369 - 02/27/13 12:20 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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soft seal are very good and fit well to.


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#963373 - 02/27/13 01:04 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Buick Runner]  
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Originally Posted By: Buick Runner
From my experience, aftermarket roof rail seals work okay, but only GM door seals fit right. Aftermarket door seals have incorrect end pads that do not mesh right with any brand of roof rail seal. You also can't get a correct seal with bad door hinges.


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#963390 - 02/27/13 04:13 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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I haven't been around for a while but for what it's worth, I used Soft Seal weather strips...I glued plastic to the back of the door seals where they screw to the rear of the door. Kind of like the factory parts...Keeps them from tearing at the screw holes...overall I'm very happy with the fit and function of both upper and lower seals. I got them to fit...but good hinges are a must as stated above.

#963419 - 02/27/13 02:26 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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Thanks for all the info guys.



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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/519099/1987-chevrolet-monte-carlo
#963430 - 02/27/13 03:40 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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I got Soffseal lower door seals for my 86 Monte and they don't fit the doors. Was a real bummer.


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#963612 - 03/01/13 03:30 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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Id try to find factory replacements. Mine have lasted for 28 years now and there isn't any problems. My dad has a 72 chevelle ss and got new weather weatherstripping for that and it was very expensive and didn't fit 100 percent right. Like 86 ttop said, check mikesmontes.com they have some nice stuff

#963688 - 03/01/13 07:39 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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Hi Folks,

Interesting that over the years, the reports about Soffseal have been all over the map - from "they fit like a glove," to, "they didn't fit at all." This seems to suggest that part-part variation is high. Since mold cavities tend to be very consistent, this seems to suggest high variation in material, which can, among other things, affect shrinkage after extraction from the mold.

I'm curious if anyone has further insight here.

Best,
MAP

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#964219 - 03/06/13 01:55 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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I bought the whole soffseal kit.I didn't have a problem with the fitment on the hood,trunk or doors.but its been about 4 years and now the door seal are starting to break apart a little bit at the seam.also I have problems with the t-top seal around the top of the window where their not thick enough.if you can go original thats the way i'd go.


#964233 - 03/06/13 05:01 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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It's interesting that GM shows a different part # for Regal/Cutlass door weatherstrips than Monte Carlo/ Grand Prix and Soffseal only shows one for all g-bodies. Maybe there's a slight difference and the soffseals are more universal resulting in less than perfect fit.

Here are the Monte Carlo PN's:

Rt Dr Lower #20277448
Lf Dr Lower #20277449
Rt Dr Roof Rail #20737658
Lf Dr Roof Rail #20737659

Here are the Regal/Cutlass PN's:

Rt Dr Lower #20201221
Lf Dr Lower #20201220
Rt Dr Roof Rail #20737658
Lf Dr Roof Rail #20737659

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#964252 - 03/06/13 04:00 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: MAP]  
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Originally Posted By: MAP
Hi Folks,

Interesting that over the years, the reports about Soffseal have been all over the map - from "they fit like a glove," to, "they didn't fit at all." This seems to suggest that part-part variation is high. Since mold cavities tend to be very consistent, this seems to suggest high variation in material, which can, among other things, affect shrinkage after extraction from the mold.

Carlos: I always suspected something like that, that kind of things is a very big problem with using aftermarket brand parts. They tend to label generic, universal fit parts as correct fit when they really are not. Like FRAM's incorrect spec PCV valves that they sell for our cars.

I'm curious if anyone has further insight here.

Best,
MAP


This will probably make some mad, but I suspect most of the "good" reports are from people who don't know how the door should seal. My lower door Softseals, the end pads were not even remotely the correct shape to mesh with the roofrail seals. The end pads just pushed the glass and the roof seal out of alignment causing a gap and a hard to close door. One of the big factors is that the end pads on the GM seals have a nylon reinforcement plate molded into the end pads. Softseal and Metro seal don't have the backing plates which is why they tend to rip out from the screw holes, they just don't hold their shape. Sometimes the aftermarket just sells us pure trash.

Last edited by Buick Runner; 03/06/13 04:04 PM.

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#976597 - 07/01/13 03:48 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Buick Runner]  
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Just installed a set of Softseal door seals. Horrible fit - the washer ripped out of the super thin end and I had to stretch the hell out of that end to even get it close to the factory screw hole (door jam with latch assembly end). The quality of the seal seems nice and the plastic fasteners line up great, but the end caps are like a generic universal fit that do not fit at all (actually the end closest to the door hinges fit pretty good - it's the other end you see when you open the door that's not even close to a good fit).

Any other reproduction brand that fits more like OEM????
I heard that Metro are good, but who knows..

Anyone try these? They are expensive for after market but still less than GM ones..
http://www.gbodyparts.com/product_info.p...54980563fdd9fb4

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#976629 - 07/01/13 11:37 PM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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hint Trimparts make no seals at this time --(you would get the same part in a red bag instead of blue)


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#976639 - 07/02/13 01:09 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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anyone try steele rubber?


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#976653 - 07/02/13 10:38 AM Re: new weather stripping question? [Re: Rodney]  
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steele is metro rebagged


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