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#861851 - 03/21/11 08:02 PM Crane Fireball 290H cam, still around ?
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i am getting ready to drop in a fresh 350 in the monte. last thing to get is a cam, i used to put these in all my cars back in the 80's i think it was only a 455 lift but always performed well. has anyone seen these lately or some advice on a similar one ? just a daily driver nothing radical just some extra power


Edited by bodean (03/21/11 08:27 PM)
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#861861 - 03/21/11 08:18 PM Re: Crane Fireball cam, still around ? [Re: bodean]
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crane when out of business a couple years back. did they not ?
i always liked comp cams better myself.
and if i am not mistaken the edelbrock cams are older crane grinds??
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#861939 - 03/22/11 12:56 AM Re: Crane Fireball cam, still around ? [Re: 88ss408]
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Yeah, they're gone. What about Summit brand cams? They mirror all the good ones out there, for cheaper though.
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#861965 - 03/22/11 07:18 AM Re: Crane Fireball cam, still around ? [Re: baaboo]
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Crane Cams is actually back in business.
They were reopened by a company called S&S Cycle.
Thier web site is: www.cranecams.com


Edited by ProTourAero (03/22/11 07:21 AM)
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#861967 - 03/22/11 07:22 AM Re: Crane Fireball cam, still around ? [Re: baaboo]
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Summit flat tappet cams are actually the same as Edelbrock... which are also the same very old grinds as Mellings/Sealed Power/Federal Mogul/Blue Racer/etc. etc.

If you want the same old school cams like the Fireball was, the Summit cams are probably going to be the most cost effective way to go. I would suggest going with something more modern myself.
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#862058 - 03/22/11 04:01 PM Re: Crane Fireball cam, still around ? [Re: MY FYN 79]
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H-290 290/290 216/216 .454/.454 110 105
heres the specs i found for the fireball 290.
it's a single pattern cam.
it looks to be that the crane energizer cams is the new name for the fireball cams


Edited by 88ss408 (03/22/11 04:58 PM)
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1988 monte carlo ss 408 sbc 11:1 compression a.f.r.195cc heads accel ignition system comp cams .507/.510 air gap intake 800cfm edelbrock carb th350 trans 3000 stall torque headman headers 3" dual super 40's 3.73:1 limited slip
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1984 monte carlo cs 400,headers,th250c,air gap intake

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#862093 - 03/22/11 06:56 PM Re: Crane Fireball cam, still around ? [Re: 88ss408]
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If you guys have some time and want to read about the cam shaft business I suggest that read Harvey Cranes writings on his web site. Harvey Crane

The section Founders & Individuals is great read especially the part called The History of the Racing Camshaft Business. It's the 3rd article.


Edited by oemtech (03/22/11 07:08 PM)
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#862100 - 03/22/11 07:47 PM Re: Crane Fireball cam, still around ? [Re: oemtech]
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Here’s something very similar and would idle about the same,, maybe fractionally more bump,, but would provide a little more top-end pull. It’s a killer price at Amazon with free shipping - $136.64 right now. This and the 100172 (274/274 – 218/218 - .450/.450 - 106 spread were my two favorite cams in this series.

100132 ----- 278/278 – 222/222 – .467/.467 - 110 spread
http://www.amazon.com/Crane-100132-Energizer-Camshaft-Lifter/dp/B000CIPWVM

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#862345 - 03/23/11 09:10 PM Re: Crane Fireball 290H cam, still around ? [Re: bodean]
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.. When buyers wanted a long duration cam that is gentle on the valvetrain back in the 1950's - 1970's, Crane called their 216/216 @ .050" lift, .454" max lift cam a '290' advertised duration... in the 1980's with buyers wanting shorter duration for gas mileage they called it a '272' advertised duration... for budget buyers an Energizer 272... with EFI out, they called it a #2020 EFI cam or something...

.. As mentioned, Crane motorcycle division was taken over by S&S cycles... don't know if any car cams are being produced again, yet, if ever... some dealers have a few Crane cams still in stock... Summit re-badged some of the Crane grinds as their own at a higher price than basic Summit grinds... they call the Crane Fireball 290H/HMV272 as a Summit #1065 now:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-1065

.. Despite what it says, it's compatible with a Monte computer when used with recommended compression ratios.

.. I'd suggest an inexpensive Summit #1103 cam (214/224) (& new hydraulic lifters & Z28 springs) for similar HP (up to about 400HP engines), but better torque curve, better MPG, extended RPM range, better drivability, and as good or better idle quality...

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-1103

http://www.ryanscarpage.50megs.com/combos11.html (scroll down to Combo #83)

.. If you want to spend more for a bigger name cam and even more modern grind, a Lunati 60101 or 60102(219/227) or Comp XE256(212/218) or XE262...
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