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#370017 - 06/23/03 02:19 PM What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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I was wondering what type and brand of transmission fluid people are using in their 200 4R. I will be getting one soon and want one that will last and keep long life.

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#370018 - 06/23/03 03:36 PM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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As far as I'm concerned as long as its Dexron II and III compatible and its clean its good to go.Do a tranny service every summer and keep a small magnet in the pan for extra protection.
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#370019 - 06/23/03 07:42 PM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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My trans was built by a retired GM transmission engineer who happens to be the guy that designed the valve body on the 200R-4....he recommended Mobil 1 synthetic ATF, and thats what I've been using.

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#370020 - 06/23/03 08:48 PM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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I run basic Valvoline Dex ATF in my trannies. I guess theres really no way to tell if its good or not other than the fact none of the trannies have let me down.
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#370021 - 06/23/03 09:56 PM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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I'm not sure what the tranny shop that replaced my converter put in, but I'm planning on trying the B&M Quick Shift stuff they put out last year or so.

They and Summit told me to stay away from the full synthetic in my tranny.

I emailed them both as asked.

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#370022 - 06/24/03 04:13 AM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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I always wondered about that as well, seeing as transmissions require friction to work... Its kind of like a motorcycle, you dont wanna put Slick 50 or equivilent in your motor oil that your clutch is running in.
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#370023 - 06/24/03 04:56 AM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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Quote:
Originally posted by rj:
I'm planning on trying the B&M Quick Shift stuff they put out last year or so.

Unless B&M came out with a new formula...."quick Shift" has been around for years! (like maybe 10??? Hurst also had a "performance" fluid..."Trick Shift" IIRC)
I used it in the 200 in my 87 442 back in the early 90's.....seemed to firm up my shifts a bit, and my tranny ran nice and cool....
........however, I also added a big, honkin' tranny cooler at the same time, so no idea which was responsable for what and to what extent.
It certainly didn't hurt, though.
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#370024 - 06/24/03 05:37 AM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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There really isnt anything all that "trick" about B&M fluid. Its basically a high quality regular trans fluid minus the friction modifiers found in your standard trans fluid - thats why it firms up the shifts. Anyone who has ever done a trans fluid swap on a high mileage trans and then had the shifts feel mushy afterward has experienced the effect of the friction modifiers...which of course break down over time. At one point B&M did not recommend Trick Shift for lock-up converters. Now I see they say "not for electronically controlled transmissions". They did however come out with, you guessed it, full synthetic "Trick Shift" fluid for late model transmissions.

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#370025 - 06/24/03 06:45 AM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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The whole "Trick" in Trick shift is that it is Blue. Thats all, and it sucks. Made a tranny I had back in high school shift like total junk. Flushed it, and put back standard Dextron and the shifting went back to what it should.
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#370026 - 06/24/03 09:59 AM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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Up till about a year or so ago, I never heard of anyone using the B&M Trick shift fluid and I've only been into cars since 1970, going to car events for about 28 years now.

None of the people I associate with talked about it? Some of them have been motor heads longer than I have.

Anything is possible and I'm sure this fluid could have been out longer then I realize.

As for whether or not it's good for (or not) your 200 tranny I really can't say cause I've never used it?

Other than my two daily drivers, only two of my other cars have auto trannies in them. One is my '86 LS, then one of my '57s.

I know I sure wouldn't go filling my tranny up with something I haven't tried, but I may add a qt or two to see if I notice any improvements? Then decide.

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#370027 - 06/24/03 10:24 AM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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well the turbo buick guys use tractor fluid with 50/50 dextron.

I am going to go with either type f next time I flush (It shifts abit harder from what I am told) or the newest dxtron...

my current tranny has 4L of type F and the rest dextron. (I needed and the type F was sitting on eh bench so I used that)
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#370028 - 06/24/03 10:29 AM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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#370029 - 06/24/03 04:12 PM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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From what I have read and what I have heard if you use Type F tranny fluid in a GM tranny it will make the shift alot softer. There is an additive in the Type F fluid that was made just for Ford trannys. Ford made there trannys to shift soft. GM wanted more of a harder noticible shift, So GM calls for regular ATF Fluid. The only thing I could see happening if you do a flush and use Type F to fill up is a softer shift. I also do not know what the additive would do to seals and other internal objects. It might be ok or it might hurt something, I am not for sure. HTH
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#370030 - 06/24/03 10:55 PM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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Sounds kind of like the O/D auto trannies Chrysler used behind the 3.0 V-6 engines.

You don't run the Mopar stuff in them they will screw up.

I had to have one of mine re-built to the tune of $1400.

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#370031 - 06/25/03 10:20 AM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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You have the Type F thing backwards. Type F will make the shifts slightly crisper & firmer. Does not hurt to mix. Type F just has some add'l modifiers that help the frictions "grab" quicker. In breif, it was easier to re-engineer the fluid than than the friction plates Ford was using way back when. And that's where Type F came from.
The tractor hydralic fluid thing works very good too. You can mix it with 1 to 2 qts of atf to give it some color since it is clear.
Synthetics are also excellent but expensive.
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#370032 - 06/25/03 10:41 AM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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id go with an amsoil tranny fluid... but thats just my two cents...
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#370033 - 06/25/03 07:29 PM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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ive heard that its not good to run synthetic oil in a higher mileage engine but does that apply to transmissions as well?
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#370034 - 06/25/03 10:57 PM Re: What brand/type of transmission fluid are you using in your 200 4R? which one is best
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I would not run synthetic in anything unless you are running the newer rubber seals. old school cork seals will leak like crazy since synthetic oil molecules are smaller.
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