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#345477 - 11/21/05 02:20 PM 22 inch rims
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I know not to many people on this website are into the "big rim" thing, but I can get a set of 22's for really really cheap and am thinking of them on my 86 monte, and was wondering what do I need to do to the suspension to get them to fit with out rubbing?

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#345478 - 11/21/05 02:39 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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You will be hard pressed to fit 22's without jacking the car up and making it look ridiculous. An the tires for 22's cost about a thousand for all four, so keep that in mind. There are memebers here with 20's but they have done extensive work to make it look clean, I dont think you could go any bigger then 20's and make it still look clean.
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#345479 - 11/21/05 03:09 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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22's dont take any fabricationg to fit.22's are the smallest you can get and still be considered "in" the big rim game 20's dont even count anymore unless its a race car or some small car that just makes the 20's look bigTO MAKE 22'S FIT:
you only need to lift it and inch or two
get either sum s-10 2" lift springs for the front and for the rear get air shocks and heavy-duty cargo coil springs from a late 70's caprice wagon or you can get big block springs front and rear from a 77 caprice/impala or cadillac and again get rear air shocks and your good to go
air shocks are like $60 on ebay
and the springs are bout the same per set so at the most you might spend $200-$270 with shippin and what not

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#345480 - 11/21/05 03:12 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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you will probably have to cut the front fender a lil

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#345481 - 11/21/05 03:13 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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There is nothing worst looking than a SS jacked up to fit ridiculously big wheels. Ughhhhh!

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#345482 - 11/21/05 04:03 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Quote:
Originally posted by DINOLS:
22's dont take any fabricationg to fit.22's are the smallest you can get and still be considered "in" the big rim game 20's dont even count anymore unless its a race car or some small car that just makes the 20's look bigTO MAKE 22'S FIT:
you only need to lift it and inch or two
get either sum s-10 2" lift springs for the front and for the rear get air shocks and heavy-duty cargo coil springs from a late 70's caprice wagon or you can get big block springs front and rear from a 77 caprice/impala or cadillac and again get rear air shocks and your good to go
air shocks are like $60 on ebay
and the springs are bout the same per set so at the most you might spend $200-$270 with shippin and what not
That has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard on this board, no offense but that sounds horrible. But hey do what you want, haha.
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#345483 - 11/21/05 05:00 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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So what if you can get 22's cheap. You are going to spend more overall then if you were to get a nice set of 17's and lower it to look 1000X meaner.


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... If you are going to do this...
UPGRADE THE BRAKES

Thats a lot of rolling mass and your tires will not rotate as fast as the stock ones will so it is harder for the brakes to disapate heat (loss of mechanical advantage)

Dont just lift the car and toss them on... you could kill someone or yourself. Pluss its gonna look wierd with stock brakes and humongous rims anyway.

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#345484 - 11/21/05 05:01 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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imo this isnt a 4x4 club... i like big shiny rims, but these cars should be lowered if anything. if you cant fit them at stock height, sounds like it wont fit to me...
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#345485 - 11/21/05 05:25 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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You are getting the 22's cheap because the wheels ruined the car they were last installed on.
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#345486 - 11/21/05 05:41 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Nothing irritates me more than to see any car, much less a nice Monte SS sitting on wheels that are to dang big. This is strictly my opinion but it just looks retarded and the car rides horrible and eventually destroys the tie rods, drag links, and pitman arms, not to mention that your turning radius adds up to about a football field to turn the thing around. Save the 22 for the trucks and SUVs.

I admit I have a set on my 2005 Toyota Sequoia and they fit perfect with no rubbing or modifications. That is the only way I would have it. They ride good on that vehicle and they help the handling remarkably.

The absolute biggest wheel I would ever put on a Monte Carlo would be 18's.
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#345487 - 11/21/05 05:52 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Stick with 15's.

IMO nothing bigger than a 17" rim belongs on a Monte.

If you want me to be blunt, buy a Cutlass or a Regal to waste with 22" rims.

It's a mortal sin in the car world. Sorry man.
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#345488 - 11/21/05 05:54 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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22's are GHETTO

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#345489 - 11/21/05 06:25 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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You buy rims for your car...not the other way around

putting on rims that big will DOMINATE the look of the car... It will look like you got a car for your rims.

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#345490 - 11/21/05 06:41 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Guys, dont bash him... if he likes that, so be it.
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#345491 - 11/21/05 06:44 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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I will refrain from saying much, but I hope nobody is racing with 20" inch wheels too often \:o . Talk about unsprung weight or the higher risk of breaking an axle or something . I know RitcheyRch has run down the 1/4 and has 18" & 20"s but not sure if he had another set of wheels to use.
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#345492 - 11/22/05 08:51 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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Originally posted by PB86SS/87LS:
I will refrain from saying much, but I hope nobody is racing with 20" inch wheels too often \:o . Talk about unsprung weight or the higher risk of breaking an axle or something . I know RitcheyRch has run down the 1/4 and has 18" & 20"s but not sure if he had another set of wheels to use.
agreed... its definately not favorable over a smaller wheel

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#345493 - 11/22/05 11:09 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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Like I said in your other post, talk to ATL_Monte, I know he had to do some work to fit the 24" on his, but that is all I remember. Also, you will have to do a brake uprade, a very big upgrade, which will run you at least another...1000 or so as far as I can remember. Your car, your rims, but suspension, if not done, shocks, spindles, ball joints, are all going to have to be watched and replaced, maybe regularly. Good luck in whatever you decide.
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#345494 - 11/22/05 12:09 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Bottom line, if this is absolutely what you want, then go for it.

Dont do it because you can get the rims cheap, because in the long run it will cost you more, and you lose functionality of the vehicle.

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#345495 - 11/22/05 01:22 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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its big tires small rims not big rims small tires ;\)
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#345496 - 11/22/05 01:37 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Put them on, then after you see them on you will throw them away, Looks HORRIBLE!, Sell them and build the car!

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#345497 - 11/22/05 02:07 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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the monte looks so gay with big rims. dont do that to your monte. PLEASE!!!
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#345498 - 11/22/05 02:07 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Like I said in another thread, dont do it because you think its a good deal... because you will end up spending tons more to make it work, make it safe, and keep it safe (you will wear out parts like no other.)

But if thats what you really want, then go for it. Make sure you understand what you are getting yourself into financially, and that you will lose some functionality of the car before you buy them though.

And dont worry about the 22"+ "club"...
doing something because someone else is doing it usually makes you unhappy in the long run, and its definately not gonna just make you cool by putting 22's on your car.

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#345499 - 11/22/05 05:28 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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sickspeedmonte -that makes so much sense
i have 24's on my LS but I had to do a lot of fabbing and almost totaly replace my steering and suspension and bigger brakes but it rides like a caddy and i can make complete turns but my car only see's 3-4 months a year(spring summer show car)and when i said 20's on a race car i was just refering to how recently i've seen a lot of restored chevelles and stuff with 20's from billet specialties and if you guy's wanna talk about something looking "gay" how about a monte with the nose pointed toward the center of the earth with slicks on the back(face down and butt up"-"GAY" right? and sum tt2s(which are tight rims -but ERRBODY and they momma has a set) or 50 stickers in ya 1/4 windows factory interior and a BIG-outta place tach on the dash but hey -"you like it, I love it"
i bet i could take my 24's off and put some 22's on there and still burn quite a few cars in the 1/4 with no problem-(got rid of the L69-400sbc and tranny now!!-both still getting tricked as we speek)but my car aint for racing

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#345500 - 11/22/05 05:43 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Quote:
Originally posted by DINOLS:
if you guy's wanna talk about something looking "gay" how about a monte with the nose pointed toward the center of the earth with slicks on the back(face down and butt up"-"GAY" right?
Holy run-on sentence batman!

That's a very agressive street stance. For race, the front end usually sits a bit higher for a better weight transfer to the rear.

And about the stickers on the windows, Novice to Pro racers display these stickers for the IHRA/NHRA contingency.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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#345501 - 11/22/05 06:03 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Over the years, tuning for race with rake has been somewhat extreme in both directions, either nose up for supposedly better off-the-line performance or nose down for a better top-end charge.

Typically, the least aero drag (and best fuel economy) occurs with a degree or two of nose down rake. Possibly under one degree for cars developed with much wind tunnel time.

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#345502 - 11/22/05 07:52 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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"run-on sentence"dude this is not a college composition class-like you're a teacher or somethin-and even if you are-i could care less
and as far as the stance and stickers we are talkin about "looks" not nhra,nascar, or any of that stuff i think all them stickers look hillbillyish you might like so what if dude is talkin bout puttin 22's on his car i doubt he gives a care about a "mean stance" and whats better for a 1/4 mile take-off-if i was racen' a car yeah i would prefer it wide and low to the ground to hug them corners and stuff but that isnt the issue for this thread-he asked about how and what is needed to fit the rims "HE" wants not how to make your monte look like JR's-now there's a "run-on" for ya

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#345503 - 11/22/05 09:35 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Just an FYI for junior members and/or senior members, the legitimate question was asked on what modifications were needed to fit a certain sized rim. If you can help him and are willing, please do so. He didnt ask for thoughts on how they'd look, so be courteous and keep it to yourselves.

ThaKidd- Certainly there are others, but to pick a member, sson20s seemed to be quite informative when it came to fitting big rims on his car. Maybe shoot him a PM and ask his thoughts.

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#345504 - 11/22/05 09:46 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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My advice to you is get into contact with SSon20s if you are seriously going to spend some money to make the car look right with 22" rims. Like these:



But if you plan to do it halfassed like this:

Then you would be better going somewhere and asking an idiot who doesnt realize how dangerous it is to have a car sitting like that.
On another note DinoLS try punctuation my friend
:rolleyes:
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#345505 - 11/23/05 01:01 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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#345506 - 11/23/05 06:01 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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#345507 - 11/23/05 12:47 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Threads tend to drift a bit from the original question. It's the nature of the beast, and isn't entirely a bad thing.


DINOLS - I appreciate the technical detail that you provided. But as something intended strictly as constructive criticism relative to the "run-on sentence" issue, please consider the following.

A half-ways decent command of the written language makes it far clearer for people to understand your questions and comments, not to mention encouraging a greater willingness to help you out (as opposed to tossing imaginary stones at your virtual MCSS window). Run-on, or "stream-of-consciousness", writing doesn't let the reader catch his mental breath, and interferes with the understanding of what you want to make known. Remember that some of the responses that you may get will be from professional people - engineers, fabricators, maybe even teachers (hmmm), and that the impressions conveyed by your message count. Sometimes even more than the content.

Quote:
Originally posted by DINOLS:
"run-on sentence"dude this is not a college composition class-like you're a teacher . . .
FWIW, I just finished up a short stint scoring some 10th grade standardized writing samples, so I guess that does make the above comments a professional critique. I took SC's initial comment as nothing more than a gentle suggestion; certainly nothing worth starting a flame war over.

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#345508 - 11/23/05 01:00 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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#345509 - 11/23/05 03:22 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Lord, apparently a subtle hint isnt enough. I have no clue who your post was directed at, and honestly it doesnt matter. You've been here long enough that you should know talk like that isnt acceptable in any shape or form and will not be tolerated.

Norm, in some situations a thread that strays a bit isnt a problem. This is a situation where it is. I'd be pretty upset right now if I was the original poster.. and for good reason.
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#345510 - 11/23/05 07:23 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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i have 22 inch boyd coddington on my 87 ss.and no rub at all.even when i do donuts.it all depends on the tire size.and every has different taste so all them stupid comments about rims are dumb.dont be jelous if you cant afford them on your car. i think everyone has there own taste.my car has all new suspension which makes the car sit up like when it was new.and i am running 235/35 22 nitto tires .my car does not look all rigged up either.
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#345511 - 11/23/05 07:47 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Originally posted by indigoss84:
i have 22 inch boyd coddington on my 87 ss.and no rub at all.even when i do donuts.it all depends on the tire size.and every has different taste so all them stupid comments about rims are dumb.dont be jelous if you cant afford them on your car. i think everyone has there own taste.my car has all new suspension which makes the car sit up like when it was new.and i am running 235/35 22 nitto tires .my car does not look all rigged up either.
Lets see some pics of your car on 22" Boyds...and are you sure your tires are 235/35/22...I don't think Nitto makes tires that small. Their smallest 22" tire is a 255/30/22.
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#345512 - 11/23/05 09:54 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Just so we make this clear, I never critisized anyone about the wheel size. Some other memebers might have, alls I said was if you cant put big rims on the car the right way then it is not worth doing it at all. The way I see it if the car is all jacked up and has big rims on it then it was just done halfassed and doesnt look clean at all. Because I love the way SSon20's car looks because of how clean everything flows, in other words it doesnt look like a pick up truck. IF people can put rims on a car in a safe and tasteful way then I am all for it no matter how big they are. Hell I even thought about doing it to the 88' SS until I sold it to my dad. That way I could have the best of both worlds, the 85' could be all power and muscle, while the 88' could be big pimpin. ;\)
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#345513 - 11/24/05 08:35 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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This is the wrong place to ask about 20+ rims on your SS. I know I wouldn't do it, I think 18's are pushing it, but hey, its your car. Like said earlier, don't do it because the rims are cheap, because you are gonna spend a whole lot of money on your suspension (replacing old balljoints, upgrading brakes, raising the car, ect). So you will end up spending some cash. What ever you decide, don't cut corners, you will pay for it sooner or later. Later might be a whole lot more expensive.
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#345514 - 11/24/05 10:21 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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Quote:
Originally posted by Do_M_Drty:
This is the wrong place to ask about 20+ rims on your SS. I know I wouldn't do it, I think 18's are pushing it, but hey, its your car. Like said earlier, don't do it because the rims are cheap, because you are gonna spend a whole lot of money on your suspension (replacing old balljoints, upgrading brakes, raising the car, ect). So you will end up spending some cash. What ever you decide, don't cut corners, you will pay for it sooner or later. Later might be a whole lot more expensive.
Like I said in my post, I thought about putting big rims on...for about 2 seconds To each his own is what we say on here alot.
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#345515 - 11/24/05 10:52 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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I have 24" rims on my SS...you don't have to cut anything for 22's but you will have to do some modifications to toher things...you could just slap them on with the stock springs all the way around(you have to put like 2-3 knuckle buster spring spacers in the front springs) and airshocks in the back...but if you just do that and you hit a bump you scrub on every hard bump...you're going to have to beat the hell out the rear frame wells to allow for suspension travell...I've done every thing from 15" rallies to 26's on cars, I would have put my 26's on my SS but sold them and bought some 24's thinking they would be easier to put on I should have kept the 6's
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#345516 - 11/25/05 10:20 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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Originally posted by MY FYN 79:
Lord, apparently a subtle hint isnt enough. I have no clue who your post was directed at, and honestly it doesnt matter. You've been here long enough that you should know talk like that isnt acceptable in any shape or form and will not be tolerated.

Norm, in some situations a thread that strays a bit isnt a problem. This is a situation where it is. I'd be pretty upset right now if I was the original poster.. and for good reason.
sorry I followed the Drift wagon, 2 each his own ,
Modifacations will need to be made if you are trying to obtain, ant sort stock ride height, Brake issues, if it matters(just a show car, or a daily ride) will need to be addressed, ss stock brakes where designed for 15" rims, ppl have done wheels grades in the past with stock brakes 22" I wouldn't do it unless I had a better caliper, and bigger rotors, cooling issues, rotational force weight will be hell on you factory brakes.

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#345517 - 11/25/05 02:42 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Quote:
Originally posted by Do_M_Drty:
This is the wrong place to ask about 20+ rims on your SS.
This is the rolling chassis forum, right? There are enough knowledgable people on this board that can help people who want to know about 20"+ wheels on thier SS.
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#345518 - 11/25/05 05:35 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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"Too each his own" is the key phrase here. Personally I think 17 are the limit, maybe 18. Again I say "To each his own".

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#345519 - 11/25/05 08:06 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Agreed. I thought that 17's were as big a rim that belonged on an SS a year or two ago but Bryan (SSon20S) currupted me. So now I have 20's and would not have it any other way.
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#345520 - 11/26/05 09:03 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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I'd like to see some pics of the suspension on these cars with 22's.

As far as the rear suspension what has to be done to make the pinion angle right? Wouldn't lifting a car like that cause some bumpsteer issues as well?

This is stuff to consider if you are going to do this to your car and want to be safe.
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#345521 - 11/26/05 10:24 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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Originally posted by MY FYN 79:
. . . Norm, in some situations a thread that strays a bit isnt a problem. This is a situation where it is. I'd be pretty upset right now if I was the original poster.. and for good reason.
Actually, I've been waiting for ThaKidd to come back with some more details or at least some commentary of his own. So far, I don't see enough information to run with and provide the help initially requested.

First there's the matter of physically getting some unknown combination of tire size and wheel width/offset to fit. Some, but not all, of this is the usual stuff. Then, for example, is the matter of a 22" package being at least 2" taller than the OE 215/65-15, not to mention wider. Clearance to the frame may place a lower limit on the minimum turn circle, which may or may not be acceptable to the OP. Don't know. But that's a harder limit than fenderwell clearance.

Then there's the follow-on discussion regarding what it might take to get it to drive decently at greater than downtown cruise night speed. More unsprung mass probably requires somewhat stiffer than stock springs. I'm not at all sure about the effect on bars & shocks, rollsteer, bumpsteer, etc. More hard data would help here.

I'd mentioned rake partly because it had already been brought up, and because it may be an unavoidable consequence of a wheel/tire mod, especially one done for appearance reasons. (e.g. the front and rear tires may necessarily end up being different sizes). I still drop by this thread from time to time and will offer any further constructive thoughts if it looks like it is going anywhere. A little research on the OP's recent posting history strongly suggests that his participation may not go much further regardless of what has been or will be posted (although I hope that I'm wrong with that).

Late edit for grammar

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#345522 - 11/26/05 01:50 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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naw man. whoever it was that made the "run-on sentence" comment was tryn to be funny and believe me as far as suspesion on-I DO know what Im talking about. I didnt go to school for mechanics but I've been working on cars since i was little.my 24's dont rub, my car make complete turns, it rides smooth,and yes i do have big brakes and a b-body booster. to clear the turnin issue, my front frame was cut and and i had pieces welded in to stiffen(even stronger than stock)my wheels dont look bowlegged.why do ya'll assume that just because some of us have custom mods(like super big rims)that we dont know or have not done the correct modifications to make them fit properly?yes i had to get a custom driveshaft made as far as the issue of pinion angle.I have over $3000.00 in suspension alone(did most the work myself except the welding).if you can name a part of the suspesion-i had it replaced with new aftermarket parts.i dont mind constructive critisizim,"..it builds character...", but dont insult my intelligence.

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#345523 - 11/26/05 02:01 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Originally posted by DINOLS:
naw man. whoever it was that made the "run-on sentence" comment was tryn to be funny and believe me as far as suspesion on-I DO know what Im talking about. I didnt go to school for mechanics but I've been working on cars since i was little.my 24's dont rub, my car make complete turns, it rides smooth,and yes i do have big brakes and a b-body booster. to clear the turnin issue, my front frame was cut and and i had pieces welded in to stiffen(even stronger than stock)my wheels dont look bowlegged.why do ya'll assume that just because some of us have custom mods(like super big rims)that we dont know or have not done the correct modifications to make them fit properly?yes i had to get a custom driveshaft made as far as the issue of pinion angle.I have over $3000.00 in suspension alone(did most the work myself except the welding).if you can name a part of the suspesion-i had it replaced with new aftermarket parts.i dont mind constructive critisizim,"..it builds character...", but dont insult my intelligence.
Great, I'd like to see it. Post some pictures.
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#345524 - 11/26/05 04:12 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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. . . my front frame was cut and and i had pieces welded in to stiffen(even stronger than stock) . . .
Got any pictures of this part of the mod? I'm not at all crazy about the shape of the OE frame in that area, and might be able to use the same sort of idea for other reasons. I do suspect that the OE shape is related to the OE's having to meet some sort of crash requirement.


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. . . my wheels dont look bowlegged. why do ya'll assume that just because some of us have custom mods(like super big rims)that we dont know or have not done the correct modifications to make them fit properly?
Good to hear. Too many import cars can't make those same claims, and too many of their owners stubbornly hold on to what they want to believe rather than accept that which can be shown to be true. Unfortunately that tends to influence the sight-unseen images that first occur to many people when mention is made regarding any other car with similar mods. Fair? Probably not. But it's just the way it is at this point in time.

Me? I'm looking at this as a slightly different engineering problem to solve, without any consideration whatsoever for appearance. Appearance aspects of somebody else's mods aren't my call. I'm hard-core performance (to the point of sacrificing subjective appearance criteria), particularly for cornering, so I'm unlikely to fit them myself. But I might learn something in the process (a good if sometimes scary thing).

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#345525 - 11/27/05 07:37 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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if you spent $3000 on suspension and and still did the work you got ripped off...I also had to notch the front of my frame and my car still rubs...you can't turn those wheels lock to lock unless your car sits stupid high like the LS in the above pics, but I can do you turns but they are wide...and DINOLS a custom drive shaft wouldn't fix the pinion angle problem you would need adjustable upper control arms for that, but then again the pionion agle didn't change enough to be considered a problem....any pics of your Monte on 4's...there are plenty pics of mine floating around the net... but just incase http://www.cardomain.com/ride/240342


I don't really have a problem with my stock brakes, but then again I've never had a fool just cut me off and cause me to slam on them, but I do plan on doing the C5 brake swap up from and rear disk in the back...sway is a problem at speeds above 70, which is why I stop by every post about frame stiffining...but I've had my SS above 115mph racing down the interstate with pedal still left, the only reason I got off it because I had already blew away the other car(73' 4 dr Impala on 23" rims)

I'm glad people believe cars with big rims especially the little import guys, thats why I left the sticker BlueBaldmonte had on the back window
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#345526 - 11/27/05 05:39 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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i dont have a digi i'll see what i can do.well since most of you guys on this board aren't into lowriders heres a lil info on my frame notching.lolo's(lowriders)have to reinforce most, if not the entire, car frame to keep it from crackin when they bounce. so i took my car to a guy i know from LA that works on lolo's to notch my frame.i pretty much have a lowrider frame-cause i even got the rear wheel wells and parts ,here and there, of the frame welded and reinforced. dang do i have to list each part i replaced, the price , time ,ect?? if i got a extra long driveshaft whouldnt you assume that i got adjustable upper control arms? plus my lowers are stock lca's lenghtend welded and boxed.i said i did "most" of the work myself.labor is not cheap. stuff came out to bout 3 stacks due to shipping taxes and stuff. think about it if i list all new bushings/ tie rods/ brakes /s-10 lift spindles /pads /rotors /bearings/ shocks springs/ a-arms/ welding labor...most of my suspension is aftermarket parts for a lifted S-10 2wd,Zr2 i think, since the front frame and a-arms are interchangable with g-body's .yo atl-i seen ya ss befor on the net its tight, good work. but the reason i can make lock to lock turns is yeah my car sits higher than yours but still not as high as the LS pictured earlier if my car was lifted that high i'd have to have some 26s or 28s but i cant afford no 8's.what size tires you got?i think i might lower my car a lil and go with a lower profile tire unless i come across a cheap set of 26's by this summer

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#345527 - 11/27/05 06:41 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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For something that's a little off this forum's beaten track(s), more details beats fewer details every time. If nothing else, it has to help the OP. FWIW, I probably wouldn't have made any mention of cost quite so quickly - that's a distraction that could have been saved for later, after the technical discussion portion is more complete.

About pictures and no digi-cam: what I've done a couple of times as a work-around has been to scan the prints from a 35mm film camera and then get the scan files hosted.

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#345528 - 11/27/05 11:42 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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the reason I can't turn lock to lock isn't because of the height of my car, its because of the offset of my rims, I go thru rims like toliet paper haven't had these 8 mmonths 1500 miles tops and already time for a new set...how did you go about lengthning your lower trailing arms I tried this wit a spare set and the angle of the mounts where off like hell I probably could have forced them to fit but wit extreme binding...why would you need a longer driveshaft I ended up having to get mine shortned, and I run all stock rear suspension except custom made rear coils....don't let the pic fool you, my car sits just right it sits the same height as the blue Cutlass on Beligios you see pics of floating around the net(and I have a trunk FULL of music and still can ride 4ppl with out any rubbing), I engineered the lift for that car first 2dr G-body in GA on 6's, I sold my 6's because I had other things I needed to do to my car first like I wanna sup up the motor some more, and upgrade the brakes all the way around and I kept having tranny probs because my car is a daily driver...but I run a 295/35/24 tire, he spent close to $3k I spent about $600 on parts with the frame notching

oh yea about not having no digi-cam you can use a regular camera when you get teh pics developed there s a little box that says do you want your pictures on a disk...
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#345529 - 11/28/05 01:53 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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I know I have been gone for a minute but know I'm back. Thanks to everybody who had a comment about how stupid my car would look. Just to let you know the car does run, and runs good. It has a 400 Small Block Chevy(supercharger on the way), an Art Carr 200-R4, bigger front brakes, boxed trailing arms, and some air shocks in the rear. Also thanks to everybody who had some real constuctive responses.
But back to the topic at hand. A friend of mine told that in order to bolt up the 22's all I would have to do is use airshocks, which I already have, and replace the front spings with some from a Chevy truck, like a 1500 or something like that.

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#345530 - 11/28/05 02:21 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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thats true but i think if you use those 1500 springs you get too much caster or sumthin and you'll have a terrible ride. it just depends on how high u wanna sit.anything lifted over 2 inches in the front needs lift spindles. with your rear even though you got air shocks replace them stock rear springs with rear cargo springs from a old wagon cause you dont wanna just be relyn' on air shocks cause sooner or later they'll give out if you keep them full. also with the weight of your beats and stuff-just sumthin to consider

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#345531 - 11/28/05 02:41 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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atl-the lower trailer arms were done at the welding shop-thats one of the things i paid for. well the reason my driveshaft is longer is cause im not running stock rear.heres my rear:
custom lift blocks
rear cargo springs from a caprice wagon
off-road truck shocks
adjustable upper control arms
the springs and blocks are not mounted in the stock location cause the of the angle that the rear housing is at.
u lifted the orange SS that was on 26's?that was the 1st one i ever saw. it was tight but i didnt like how the front of the rear wheel well was cut to make'em fit
how much you sellin the 4's for?holla at me

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#345532 - 11/28/05 03:19 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Supercharged 400... that would be a sight to see 24" rims roasting the tires...

Im guessing this motor is going to be for show mostly? Not trying to down you here, but the big rims cant be optimal for a performance application.

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#345533 - 11/29/05 04:24 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Not mine but SS on 24's doing burn out...
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#345534 - 11/29/05 04:36 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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#345535 - 11/29/05 05:09 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Yea I'm going to swap in a locker on mine when I get ready to do rear disk....What rear are you running? did you tell them the specs to modify your trailing arms or just let them do it? how did they do it, cut them and weld some stock inbetween and then box it off wit more stock?
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#345536 - 11/29/05 05:57 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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#345537 - 11/29/05 06:11 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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3.73 is fine with my 24's take off is pretty quick, thats what pretty much what every performance shops recommended for good take off and a good cruising rpm, never even used the overdrive when I use to have the 700
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#345538 - 11/29/05 09:40 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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Has anyone had problems with running 20"s and up with parts breaking? With that unsprung weight, lets say doing alot of burnouts like the photo above I'd think is alot of stress on other components. Or maybe not.
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#345539 - 11/29/05 09:50 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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I wouldn't say any problems with usual breakage from unsprung weight, maybe if you dog it. but stock components do wear out pretty quick like if you slap on a set with original bushings be prepared to address that problem alot sooner than you would with stock size wheels,

But yea I'd have to say that burnout is alot of extra stress on the rear, thats why there aren't pics of me doing a burnouts, if I had a 9" rear with some heavy drag axle I might get out there and do a few burnouts, but not with the stock rear..maybe a every now and then if I had a 8.5 with heavy duty posi and and axles, but dude above is pushing it that car is all stock, he claims its a 385 GM create motor and heavy duty TH350 tranny in that car but every 385 I've seen from GM had center bolt valve covers and the motor in that car car has regular 4 bolt

I would have to agree that 20' should be the max on a bone stock SS or if you want to stay strickly performance, because above that it does get exstensive, if you are looking into 22's and still want to stay performance minded I would have to go with a set of billets like Budnick or something along that line
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#345540 - 11/30/05 01:38 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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atl-i got a 3.73 posi rear. im planning on putting some new shoes on it soon.i think imma try some s-10 performance shoes.i havent done any burnouts since i got my rims but whenever i put my ralleys on i be smoken the whole street. i just let the shop do all the welding and application. i took them 2sets of stock trailer arms and some 1/4 thick metal strips from home depot just to be safe.im not sure if i should keep the 400 tranny or ,since my 200r4 is out, just get it built?

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#345541 - 11/30/05 01:55 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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My monte has the 3.73 posi in it. By adding a set of 22's what would I have to change my gear ratio? I dont want to have to replace my trans no sooner than I need to.

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#345542 - 11/30/05 11:34 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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no the 3.73 is ok, the tranny on the other hand, big rims no doubt add stress to the entire car, and will point out all your weak links...I would certainly add a trans cooler, before mounting the rims....
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#345543 - 12/01/05 04:30 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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ATL, go on ebay, under the suspension parts, they have lengthened control arms ect.

ThaKidd--Either way you go, good luck, you've found some very good knowledge from the people on the board.
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#345544 - 12/01/05 06:49 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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you wouldn't happen to have a link to the lengthened control arms by chance? but I might be swapping in an Impala SS rear so I'm might have to go custom
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#345545 - 12/04/05 12:29 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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well im from los angeles and big rims are big here...but yeah your car will look huge with those rims...i mean i habe big rims...I have a cadillac with 22s butits a cadillac not a ss...ss are fast cars...put 20s and drop it a bit i..thats what ill be f odin with mine...and big rims are big here..

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#345546 - 12/04/05 08:57 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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LOL Cali on Big Rims...haha West Coast is none for paint and Hydros...in the South 22's are not even considered big rims anymore, there like the norm because almost any car can fit 22's with little to no mods...I see some big rims out in Cali but majority on trucks...And with the new tire desgin of the lo-pro 23" tire alot of cars are fitting 23's with little to know mods....
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#345547 - 12/04/05 11:09 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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Originally posted by Rizzo's 84:
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Originally posted by Do_M_Drty:
This is the wrong place to ask about 20+ rims on your SS.
This is the rolling chassis forum, right? There are enough knowledgable people on this board that can help people who want to know about 20"+ wheels on thier SS.
What I meant was not a whole lot of people are doing the "big rim" thing on this website. Thats like me askin questions (before I lowered my 03 Silverado 4/6) about if my tires will rub or about notching the carrier bearing mount. There is gonna be some knowledge, but for the most part there isn't. I'm sure there are some websites dedicated to the oversize rim crowd, and have a ton of knowledge about the suspension mods needed to accomplish the desired stance with huge rims. Not sayin he should go else where, but I think he will get faster answers (and possibly more options) on what he needs.
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#345548 - 12/04/05 04:58 PM Re: 22 inch rims
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he wouldn't be getting opyions he would be getting opinions, because there is no certain way theres a way and a better way...
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#345549 - 12/06/05 08:32 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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Another reason I want to put some 22's on my SS is because it just might keep me out trouble. Its fast as hell right now, and I have gotten my liscened suspended becasue Im always driving fast, or laying some rubber somewhere. With the 22's I will be more inclined to just cruise, and not want to burn rubber(as often).

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#345550 - 12/06/05 08:47 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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And they will attract less attention to the car when you do decide to play around too ;\)

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#345551 - 12/07/05 12:10 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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maybe, but the 22's will kick the speedo off about 5-10 mph so you will be going faster than it says you are which could get you in more trouble....which is why awhile back when I had my 700 in the car I was trying to figure out how to connevt the electronic speedo to the mechanical speedo, because I believe its easier to recalibrate the electronic speedo, but not I'm looking into the digital gauges....
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#345552 - 12/07/05 08:11 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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You could probably replace the sleeve with a VSS if you wanted to do that. But they do make adapters that go between the sleeve and the cable that can increase or decrease your gear ratio.

I just converted my '93 C4 trans from electric to mechanical, and I love it. I have never seen a speedo shoot up to 45mph that quickly in my life!

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#345553 - 12/07/05 08:16 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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Quote:
Originally posted by SickSpeedMonte:
You could probably replace the sleeve with a VSS if you wanted to do that. But they do make adapters that go between the sleeve and the cable that can increase or decrease your gear ratio.

I just converted my '93 C4 trans from electric to mechanical, and I love it. I have never seen a speedo shoot up to 45mph that quickly in my life!
please elaborate on this more...where were you when I had the post about the speedos
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#345554 - 12/07/05 08:34 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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What thread?

What should I elaborate on? The 700 already has a "sleeve and gear" setup (i.e. mechanical)

Any tranny shop should be able to get you (or make you) and adapter that will change your gear ratios to pretty much whatever you want, and get your speedo to within 1-2% off.

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#345555 - 12/07/05 09:05 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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I'm no longer running the 700, swapped out now running a 400
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#345556 - 12/07/05 09:07 AM Re: 22 inch rims
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Thats still mechanical though.

I know that with my 6 speed, for some reason you can run either a VSS (Vehicle Speed Sensor- electrical output) or a sleeve and gear (engauges cable- mechanical)

You might want to call a Chevy dealership and ask them if a VSS exists for a TH400.

The mechanical stuff cost me about $75 for everything (gear, sleeve, and o-ring)

I would think a VSS would cost more.

Honestly, call a tranny shop and ask them about correcting your speedo. They can probably get you set up for $30-40

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