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#277660 - 07/09/02 03:52 PM GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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Anyone done a serpentine system with all accessories & smog pump?? At a reasonable price? Any junk-yard cars fit??
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#277661 - 07/09/02 04:33 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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I read about one done in Car Craft? It was done on an SS also. I think they just used a Camaro setup, and only had to drill one hole in the driver's side head, if I remember correctly. Remember, a small block is a small block in "any body".
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#277662 - 07/09/02 09:07 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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You should be able to find one that doesn't need any holes drilled. Look for 87(?)-92 F-body(Camaro/Firebird), 86 and older still used V belts. Or look for a 88-93 full size truck with the 4.3L V6 or SBC, or 88 and newer S-10 with 4.3L V6.

You may have to use some extra parts for some of these setups to work. For example, the F-body AC compressor and alternator are on oppostie sides compared to your car-you will have to use the AC hoses from the Camaro. Also the newer CS series alternators use a different connector, so you will need to do some wiring. Good luck.
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#277663 - 07/09/02 10:06 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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GM PART #12497698 Serpentine Accessory Belt Drive System includes all accessories, pulleys and brackets. Anyone familiar with this set-up?
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#277664 - 07/10/02 12:13 AM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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I have an 87 Elcamino with a 305 and I put a Serpentine belt system in from an 89 Pontiac TransAm. I got the setup when I bought a TPI from the same car. When my AC gave out I began the swap. If you get all of the parts from the parts car the installation goes fairly easily. Yes, you have to switch the AC compressor and the Alternator, which needs some rewire work but not too much. Also, you have to change the hose from the "new" compressor to the condenser but that is the only major change. It is also the time to make the change to electric fans and a new radiator. I paid $300 for all of the parts. The TPI may go on this winter.

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#277665 - 07/10/02 11:01 AM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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I checked into that GM serpentine conversion kit a year or 2 ago. It is a complete kit, but I think it was over $800. You should be able to find a good setup at a junk yard for much less.
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#277666 - 07/10/02 02:47 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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does that kit include the AC compressor? If so, thats why it costs so much...
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#277667 - 07/10/02 05:41 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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Yes, that does include a/c compressor.
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#277668 - 07/10/02 05:50 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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It must be heavy due to the shipping costs. I looked it up and shipping alone was 125.00 but it can be gotten for around 750.00 including shipping.
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#277669 - 07/12/02 05:33 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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RHONDA - Can you do better than Scoggins Dickey for $720 including shipping?
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'83 SS, 383 Stroker, Edelbrock Aluminum Performer RPM Heads, AirGap, 750 Holly HP, Forged Rotating Assembly, Hookers, 3" TorqueTech, Hughes TH350c with 3200 Stall, Eibach Spings, Performance Suspension Polygraphite, Serpentine Belt System, dual 12" Spal fans, 8.5 with 4.11 gears, NX Twin 150 Shot, 11.29 @ 121.52 best.

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#277670 - 07/13/02 09:31 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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I did mine a while back (thanks Ashley )The parts came used from the link below.I had to get a reverse rotation fan blade from the local parts place,because I retained the clutch fan(for now,Fiero elec. fan in the works)
HTHS BobJ

http://www.thirdgenresource.com
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#277671 - 07/13/02 11:33 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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BobJ - Thanks for the info. The site has a unit for $200. What is the shipping and handling cost? Will my existing fan clutch work OK in reverse?
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#277672 - 07/14/02 06:29 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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At my local junk yard the price is 50 bucks for the whole set up of a 4.3 S-10. Yes it will fit the front of the 4.3 is identical to small blocks in fact the 4.3 is a 350 with the rear two cylinders cut off.

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#277673 - 07/14/02 08:30 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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MONTESSMAN - The yards her are asking $350 for a complete system. Go to your junk yard and get it, and I'll pay you $50 plus shipping.
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'83 SS, 383 Stroker, Edelbrock Aluminum Performer RPM Heads, AirGap, 750 Holly HP, Forged Rotating Assembly, Hookers, 3" TorqueTech, Hughes TH350c with 3200 Stall, Eibach Spings, Performance Suspension Polygraphite, Serpentine Belt System, dual 12" Spal fans, 8.5 with 4.11 gears, NX Twin 150 Shot, 11.29 @ 121.52 best.

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#277674 - 07/15/02 02:09 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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I had to get a fan blade that would pull air while rotating the opposite direction as the stock fan.I used the stock clutch,but had to make studs to mount it to the water pump(different size threads,thank you Mr. Dremel)

BobJ
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84 monte ss original
86 monte ss 350,mildly modified,edel tes,serpentine belt conversion,vortec heads
'86 Aerocoupe YAHOO!
'88 IROCZ (with all kinds of good stuff)

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#277675 - 07/16/02 01:22 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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THANKS TO EVERYONE - I got loads of info from everyone, and decided to try to find a good used system. Hope I can find one for less than half the new GM price, with a limited warranty. Looking at http://www.thirdgenresources.com and calling local junk yards. Ebay units are relatively low price, but sold "as-is".
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'83 SS, 383 Stroker, Edelbrock Aluminum Performer RPM Heads, AirGap, 750 Holly HP, Forged Rotating Assembly, Hookers, 3" TorqueTech, Hughes TH350c with 3200 Stall, Eibach Spings, Performance Suspension Polygraphite, Serpentine Belt System, dual 12" Spal fans, 8.5 with 4.11 gears, NX Twin 150 Shot, 11.29 @ 121.52 best.

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#277676 - 07/16/02 02:28 PM Re: GM SERPENTINE BELT SYSTEM
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Remember to check out the later model Caprices 88-93 TBI engines which also use the same set up.

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