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#183784 - 07/14/06 01:10 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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They arent out of the ramcharger trucks, they are actually intrepid fans.

AllStar carries them.

#183785 - 07/14/06 02:22 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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So why are these things called "ramcharger" fans?What year intrepids do i need to be looking for? And what kinda price should I be looking for? THanks again!

#183786 - 07/14/06 08:58 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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The price may be different but I seen a nice dual fan assembly that measures 31x18 and it was out of an '05 Pacifica. I found out recently through some digging that Chrysler unloaded their previous fan assemblies on the cheap (including the RamCharger fans) due to high bearing failure and noise. This was only up to 1997 however. The RamCharger fans move about 3000 cfm so they are very capable of moving some air, but beware of the year you purchase. I'll have to check on the newer fan motor style but the newer Chrysler stuff is nice-not as tough as Ford's Mark VIII fans but good enough for keeping your car cool nonetheless. -Jabin


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#183787 - 07/18/06 10:39 AM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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If the "ramcharger" fans are simply intrepid fans i might have to go that route, as the price seems right and thats what everyone else seems to be running. Thanks for the help.

#183788 - 07/18/06 06:48 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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For the money, the RamCharger fans are pretty cheap-my cost on them was as low as $83 dollars each from the dealer but I passed anyway. They are a definite improvement over a mech. fan that's for sure. -Jabin


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#183789 - 07/18/06 08:26 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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I think itis pretty hard to beat the RamCharger fans, the price is almost cheap and the performance of the fans are great. Conversion to RamCharger fans was one of the best and most economical upgrades that I ever made.

#183790 - 07/19/06 10:14 AM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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What year intrepids are the ramcharger fans out of? I work in a shop here so I can get them at cost, just need to know what I am looking for. Thanks
Eric

#183791 - 07/20/06 12:50 AM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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smm enterprises, an authroized vendor here sells them for about 85$ I think and they are for a 99 and newer intrepid



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#183792 - 07/20/06 05:36 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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Anyone bought those fans on ebay from white performance..the brand is wysco http://stores.ebay.com/whiteperformance1_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsQ3amesstQQtZkm

pretty reasonable..2 12" fans should work..wondering if anyone has bought these....

thanks
REY


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#183793 - 07/21/06 06:37 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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I rented a brand new charger while in DC this week and when the dual fans in that hit their high speed it was like a tornado.. im not sure what they are rated but they look like they would fit in a monte real well.. they are offset and not side by side so it looks like they cover more area than the ramcharger fans.. im sure being on a new car they are pretty expensive but possibly an option..
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#183794 - 07/25/06 08:18 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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#183795 - 08/01/06 09:26 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ  
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I used the Mark VII fan that i got from a junk yard for $20. I think this fan is somewhere around 4000 CFM.
I used a cutlass top support.
I also trimmed the bottom of the shroud with a die grinder and was able to drill 2 holes in the bottom and use the stock bolt holes.
At the top i drilled 2 holes that lined up with the 2 holes in the top of the Rad and used 2 long bolts with nuts and lock washers.
By doing this i was able to install it without fabricating any brackets.
I also used some u-shaped weatherstrip on the fan where it touches the rad.
This is by far the best upgrade i have done yet.
I will soon be adding the dc controller that Jabin sells but an adjustable thermostat and a couple relays works just fine for now.


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#394901 - 12/31/06 04:51 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: MC87SS]  
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is there a way i can find out how much amperage my electric fan is drawing?

#397536 - 01/08/07 05:01 AM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: Black Rocket]  
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Yeah, but you'll need an ammeter that goes to 50? amps. You hook it inline with tha fans, and it shows the load direct. The factory told me 19.5 on my Ramchargers, but I measured it at 21 - 22 with a gauge.


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#397823 - 01/09/07 02:23 AM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: ]  
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what kind of ammeter would you get, have any cheap ones that will do the job? say my fan draws about they same as yours, what size fuse do i use; 25? has anyone gotten your fans to work with time delay or a thermocouple? if so i'd like the see how you did it, thanks

#416155 - 03/03/07 11:29 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: Black Rocket]  
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I got my ramcharger fans out of a 2002 Intrepid for $30.00 at a junk yard and bought a Cutlass Rad support for $8. I used the Derale Deluxe wiring kit with the probe thermostat. It worked well and used the B&M mounting straps to mount it to the rad. My Sig link has pics

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#424440 - 03/28/07 05:27 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: Bones]  
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FYI. I added my diagram to the new Album.

I also have other diagrams for single speed fans, both single and dual if anyone needs them. Just let me know have a good one!


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#424584 - 03/29/07 12:50 AM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: Sparkee]  
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I have 2 fans and wiring from an 87 GTA. I just follow that wiring diagram?

I'm kinda confused about what to get.

Could someone please pm me on what all I need to do the conversion. I would really apreciate it. Thanks!


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#435374 - 04/30/07 12:00 AM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: Aceprowler]  
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Is a shroud necessary or can you just dump two 12" on there and be ok?


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#435477 - 04/30/07 04:30 AM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: cleetus]  
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You should use a shroud so that all the radiator air flows, as opposed to sitting still. This would allow areas to NOT cool the fluid like it should. A LOT of cooling problems have been solved by adding a shroud.


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#435896 - 05/03/07 01:34 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: ]  
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What size dual fans you use? Will 2 12's fit?


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#435988 - 05/03/07 07:21 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: cleetus]  
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Whatever you do, don't use the probe thermostats. They are horribly inaccurate, and are succeptible to variation depending on what the airflow across it is. Your best bet is to find a screw in switch that opens/closes that the temps you want and grounds the correct way. IIRC, There is an open spot in the thermostat housing, but I put mine in my Edelbrock manifold.

HTH,
Jeff


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#436051 - 05/03/07 10:35 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: Jeffrey Fontaine]  
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 Originally Posted By: Jeffrey Fontaine
Whatever you do, don't use the probe thermostats. They are horribly inaccurate, and are succeptible to variation depending on what the airflow across it is. Your best bet is to find a screw in switch that opens/closes that the temps you want and grounds the correct way. IIRC, There is an open spot in the thermostat housing, but I put mine in my Edelbrock manifold.

HTH,
Jeff


I've been using a probe in my SS for two years now and haven't had a single problem. The key is placing it close to the hose so airflow doesn't affect it.


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#436134 - 05/04/07 02:10 AM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: GregK]  
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A stock setup will not have an extra port, but if you aren't using your EFE valve you can remove the TVS for it and use that port. This is where I have the sensor for my SPAL variable speed controller (which is another simple option, and prevents cycling of the fans).


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#436816 - 05/06/07 04:25 PM Re: Electric Fan FAQ [Re: lazygearhead]  
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I'm attempting to go from a temp probe to a sensor in the head.
The only problem I'm having is that the probe had two wires and the sensor in the head only has one, do I need to rewire everything? Thanks in advance. marc

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