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#1068592 - 11/14/20 07:34 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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This is the best picture I have with the older Alt and March underdrive pulley.

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#1068596 - 11/15/20 05:20 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Get out there and kick some butt. That crack of dawn thing I really struggle with, one thing I never liked about racing. My tee times were always early afternoon.

Hope you have that alt issue finally resolved now.

Give any thought to having a camera video the inside rear tire?
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#1068604 - 11/15/20 09:35 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Think I had a good day, pretty sure I beat all the CAM T and C cars but the vettes in S whipped me good. The car is great, the tires are shot...and the driver is just okay. Had 2 runs almost a second faster but coned them away. Had to make sure I was careful on 4th run to get a fast clean run in.

And yes, a bunch of us still beat that F one fiddy...but he's getting closer to us. laugh


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#1068606 - 11/15/20 11:30 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Sounds like a good time!

#1068609 - 11/16/20 12:06 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: 88ssBrent]  
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Originally Posted by 88ssBrent
Sounds like a good time!


It's always fun racing our cars!!

Fastest clean run today.

https://youtu.be/dQaQqJUeVLk

1 second quicker but (1) 2 second cone knocked down. That cone did not help me go any faster...

https://youtu.be/AfZBz4hmL8w


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#1068613 - 11/16/20 02:46 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Sometimes it seems like its the stuff that shouldn't give you issues that does...

Hot rod engine - thumbs
Relatively recent EFI conversion - thumbs
Tricked out suspension with 39 flavors of adjustment - thumbs
Dead Battery - doh
Dead alternator - doh
Parts store having the right belt - well, Second time's a charm so thumbs

But better to find it running to Target 2 days before than running around the cones.


Shawn

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It ain't much off the line, but it's nice on the highway
#1068614 - 11/16/20 03:10 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Abso-freaking-lutely... On all accounts. laugh


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#1068619 - 11/16/20 09:24 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Some times it just ain't your day. 37th in raw time out of 112...

http://www.azsolo.com/backup/index.php/events-info/results

Still digesting exactly WTF happened and what I could have done differently.


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#1068620 - 11/16/20 11:28 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Lance - you are like a nuero-surgeon to a bunch of lumberjacks. Perfection is a moving target and you have come so far since I started reading your posts 15 years ago. Keep learning and sharing. Makes me wish (almost) that I were 30 years younger like you!
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#1068621 - 11/17/20 02:54 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Time for tires?

Gordon when I ran my first autox of the 120 drivers there you could take all the driver's over 60 and sit them at a picnic table. I would have easily got a seat. Yep there is something to that "old dog new tricks" thing.

Lance SPM, hard to compete with those cars if they are what I think they are. No limit slot cars. I see Sean is a little more than a second behind you. And the chick in the Vette is a tad quicker.
I'd say it was a good day. Isn't the season just starting to ramp up there, or has the Rona impact hit?
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#1068630 - 11/17/20 04:45 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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We are in mid season form here, one more event in Fall series then in January we transition to Spring series.

I've watched a few videos from the fast guys on this course and they had us covered in two spots basically. There were several key hard braking zones and those with ABS could dive much deeper into them than us old cars could and they also carried more speed, some times WAY more speed through the super long slalom than I could. When you have a slalom that long even 1-2 mph more all the way through really picks up time. The low power cars ahead of me have really good drivers in them and the high powered sports cars behind me not so much. I guess overall I did okay with what I had, that course just didn't fit me or my setup very well.

And yes, I am over due for tires. These are heat cycled out and feel like rocks. Brian Peters suggested I drop 2#s out of each tire after my second run to try to wake them up and it worked a bit. Looks like I'll finish them off at GGs this weekend and then go shopping.


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#1068660 - 11/19/20 01:10 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Are you still running the fan harness from Jabin? Where did you mount your relays?

I have had the fans and top plate for a little while and finely ordered the harness from him a couple days ago. I assume you mounted the temp switches in a thermostat spacer also?

Its funny everytime I search a specific subject lately on Google about a monte carlo mod im wanting to do it brings up something you have done to your's. This time on pro touring when i was researching jabin's harness. I appreciate that you have documented all this stuff. It sure has helped me.

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#1068661 - 11/19/20 04:05 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Brent not sure if you read through this post on here.
http://www.montecarloss.com/community/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=183709#Post183709

The last two pages of that post is were my Spal fan controller died after 10 year running and was replaced by this one.
https://www.autocoolguy.com/product-page/auto-cool-85-pwm-controller

It's worked flawlessly now for two years. About a year ago an upgrade to a 140A alt from here took care of the surge when the fans come on at night and flickered the headlights. Staying with the 10SI alt kept the job a bolt in for a stock belt setup. Years ago when the Spal dual fans were installed a 100A alt was installed as an upgrade to the 78A stock alt. When that alt spun the front bearing and destroyed the armature and front housing it was time to go 140A.
https://store.alternatorparts.com/d...eries-standard-regulator-alternator.aspx
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#1068662 - 11/19/20 04:54 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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I rewired my fans when I did the EFI swap and everything runs through a relay box I put up behind headlights and the ECU controls when the fans come on and go off.

Jabin's harness is nice and worked great. I put both temp switches in T-stat housing yes and used port in driver's head to run gauge sensor. I mounted my fan relays to the passenger fender close to where the battery is.

I'm glad the build threads continue to help others out. Heck, there are times I go back to them to look up how I did something!! laugh


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#1068684 - 11/22/20 01:31 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Just a quick video to show y'all how my weekend went.

https://youtu.be/ISBDVHBe8LE


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#1068691 - 11/22/20 03:06 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Looks like you ran that in 1st gear?
Couldn't find any times on Goodguys, just 32 shootout results.
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#1068692 - 11/22/20 06:11 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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So I typically always only use first gear at GGs. This year I entered with wore out 1/4" shorter tires, a MUCH shorter rear gear and GGs threw in a monkey wrench with considerably longer and faster straights. I was on the limiter a third into the straights.

Plus everyone showed up and brought all their freshest bestest stuff which was also a surprise.

Best I could muster was 40th quick out of 55 and I was asked to not come back Sat.

This was an all 2nd gear try

https://youtu.be/4Folyk-MmnM

And this was my 6th and final (typically get at least 10 runs on Friday) fastest run which was still about 7 tenths from cutoff and 2 full seconds off pace with guys I typically run with.

https://youtu.be/PMvyz-euXLE


Live and learn, we'll regroup and go on. Later I'll post about attending a large gathering in Covid era...


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#1068696 - 11/23/20 05:44 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Having a mask in every car and every pocket is pretty much the norm here, for months now. It's hard to go, do anything without a mask, soon required to cut the grass.

It's hard to compare a car with huge fresh hides to a car with used up-sized tires. It's hard to compare a car with a good 200 to a very good 340 tire. Was everyone at Goodguys on a 200?

For new tires is there a better option than the RE71R? On Tire Rack I found that 200 tires in a 275/35x18 can get very price for a set of four, 1000 to 1400 bucks, depending on brand, ouch. Looked like the Bridgestones are one of the top rated tires and and almost affordable.
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#1068699 - 11/23/20 02:06 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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The hot tires today (at least for autocross) are the Yokohama and the Falken RT660. Probably good for a half second to full second on a normal course over the RE71s and Rivals.

I've been watching the 660s and talking with friends running them and they all like them and are winning races with them. My concern is they heat cycle out after one track day. Hate to ruin a $1,000 set of tires just because I want to play on a big track once.

A second set of wheels with everyday and track day tires on them really isn't in the cards either so I'm back to that split personality disorder once again with this car.


I'm really having fun at SCCA events mainly because of huge CAM T involvement lately, so I'll probably find a black Friday deal on 660s or Yokohama and get them on before Dec 19.


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#1068702 - 11/23/20 05:27 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Those Yoko A052 are salty, almost 1500 bucks by the time you get them mounted. I'd hate to run them on the street and wear them down quickly. The RT 660 are way cheaper, cheapest of all the 200 tires, must be why you see so many at the course.
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#1068703 - 11/23/20 05:43 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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That and they are damn fast...


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#1068710 - 11/24/20 04:51 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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You might find this article interesting. Read down through the comments on the bottom.
https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/falken-azenis-rt-660-tire-test-autocross-and-track/
Bob

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