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#1063582 - 09/20/19 10:21 PM Blade's 1988 SS  
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It's been a while...

The Monte has been sitting for about 7 years due to blown trans gasket. Time to get it back on the road.

The Plan:

  • Replace rotted floor pans
  • Remove 200r4
  • Install WC T5


Today I got the driver seat and console out, as well as the driver side "Body by Fisher" sill plate. The driver floor is shot, front and back but the rocker looks solid. There is a questionable spot under the seat mount but I have to remove that before I'll be able to inspect further.

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~ Matt H.

1988 Monte Carlo SS w/ T-tops, White with gray int, 350, Summit cam, World Torquer S/R heads, Holley St. Dominator intake, Edelbrock 600cfm carb, Champion 3-row alum radiator, ramchargers, 200-r4 with CK Shift Kit, billet servo, 2200 stall, Afterburner headers, Pypes 2.5" with x-pipe, Violator mufflers (stock exit), S10 front brake swap.
#1063605 - 09/22/19 11:11 PM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: BladeOfAnduril27]  
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I got all of the carpet and padding out. The passenger side front is in great shape, just a few spots of surface rust. Passenger side rear has a hole, but is the least bad of the rotted sections. The rocker on that side is solid too. Overall, it's as good as I could have hoped.

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The drivers side rear is the worst:
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Passenger side:
[Linked Image]

When I removed the rear bench I found this stapled to the back. I was really hoping it was the build sheet, but alas it is not. Still a neat find though.
[Linked Image]

Last edited by BladeOfAnduril27; 09/22/19 11:12 PM.

~ Matt H.

1988 Monte Carlo SS w/ T-tops, White with gray int, 350, Summit cam, World Torquer S/R heads, Holley St. Dominator intake, Edelbrock 600cfm carb, Champion 3-row alum radiator, ramchargers, 200-r4 with CK Shift Kit, billet servo, 2200 stall, Afterburner headers, Pypes 2.5" with x-pipe, Violator mufflers (stock exit), S10 front brake swap.
#1063681 - 09/30/19 09:25 PM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: BladeOfAnduril27]  
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Made a little more progress this weekend and got the drivers side seat mount off. Unfortunately under it I found that rust had made its way into the rocker. Still not horrendous, but I'll have to fab up some patches.

[Linked Image]

This coming Friday I'm heading out to Fall Carlisle to get some replacement pans from Mike's Montes who will be there as a vendor.


~ Matt H.

1988 Monte Carlo SS w/ T-tops, White with gray int, 350, Summit cam, World Torquer S/R heads, Holley St. Dominator intake, Edelbrock 600cfm carb, Champion 3-row alum radiator, ramchargers, 200-r4 with CK Shift Kit, billet servo, 2200 stall, Afterburner headers, Pypes 2.5" with x-pipe, Violator mufflers (stock exit), S10 front brake swap.
#1063686 - 10/01/19 03:29 AM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: BladeOfAnduril27]  
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Want some inspiration .look at my post about the 85 "rusteration" .it will make u feel better about the shape of your floor lol. Giver my friend it is a fun and good learning experience to do a floor. If u can do a floor u can do it all.
Look for build sheet on inside of sail panel trim.the trim on the inside of quarter.thats where mine was stapled! Hope you find it driver side

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84ss current restoration
86 ss gone
85 ss new
85 z28 tpi
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#1066770 - 06/11/20 07:26 PM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: BladeOfAnduril27]  
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Well, I haven't made a ton of progress. I did meet up with Mike (Mike's Montes) at Fall Carlisle and get a set of new floor pans. So they are in the shed ready to go. I grabbed a bunch of Eastwood products, Rust Encapsulator and Chassis black, as well as new seam sealer and inter-frame coating that will be used to rust proof every bit of metal in sight once the new pans are in. I also picked up some more T5 swap parts. F-body hydraulics, Centerforce clutch kit... Still have to order the flywheel and Bernie's pedal kit.

I've been thinking a lot about what to do about the console. I've never been a huge fan of the stock one. The lack of cupholders, finicky console lid, and rather cheap feeling plastic of the whole thing... I think I've got a solution to all of the above... a console out of a 5th gen Camaro. It has cupholders, looks good with the rest of the SS interior, and I think I can make the shifter look very clean and stock. The T5 came with a Hurst shifter (black stick). Hurst makes a shifter stick grommet specifically designed to fit to the late model shifter boots so that it will accommodate a Hurst flat stick. The 5th gen boot is available in black with red stitching, which keeps with the MCSS interior theme.

Console: https://www.pro-touring.com/threads/116623-2010-2014-Gen-V-Camaro-Center-Console

Shifter Boot: https://ebay.us/4xZ4EM

I should be able to delete the 6-speed shift pattern on the trim, as well as the traction control button with some filler to make it look even more stock. It also has provisions for an e-brake handle, which I would really like to convert the car to. The pedal e-brake isn't ideal with manual trans, IMO. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find anyone who's documented the conversion to handbrake, so that will be an adventure, as well as fabbing mounts for the console.

Hopefully I'll make more progress soon. It's been rough with everything going on and a crazy toddler home 24/7 while I'm trying to work. haha


~ Matt H.

1988 Monte Carlo SS w/ T-tops, White with gray int, 350, Summit cam, World Torquer S/R heads, Holley St. Dominator intake, Edelbrock 600cfm carb, Champion 3-row alum radiator, ramchargers, 200-r4 with CK Shift Kit, billet servo, 2200 stall, Afterburner headers, Pypes 2.5" with x-pipe, Violator mufflers (stock exit), S10 front brake swap.
#1066791 - 06/13/20 07:15 AM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: BladeOfAnduril27]  
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That dash is so clean for such a rusted car. I bet you hate your snow and ice removal stuff in your area. I had a 4th gen handle inmy car for years. I used the 4 gen cables and the bracket that welds to the floor under the tunnel. I used a 4 gen console also back then.


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#1066814 - 06/14/20 07:52 PM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: 345HP87SSAC]  
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Originally Posted by 345HP87SSAC
That dash is so clean for such a rusted car. I bet you hate your snow and ice removal stuff in your area. I had a 4th gen handle inmy car for years. I used the 4 gen cables and the bracket that welds to the floor under the tunnel. I used a 4 gen console also back then.


Yeah, somehow I lucked out on the dash. Original as far as I know, and no cracks, despite the car being my daily driver through high school and most of college and being parked outside all of the time. It saw 4 or 5 PA winters, plus the t-tops leak so those floors didn't stand a chance. Glad to hear someone else has done a hand brake. I'm hoping it won't be too difficult to set up.


~ Matt H.

1988 Monte Carlo SS w/ T-tops, White with gray int, 350, Summit cam, World Torquer S/R heads, Holley St. Dominator intake, Edelbrock 600cfm carb, Champion 3-row alum radiator, ramchargers, 200-r4 with CK Shift Kit, billet servo, 2200 stall, Afterburner headers, Pypes 2.5" with x-pipe, Violator mufflers (stock exit), S10 front brake swap.
#1067412 - 07/26/20 02:30 PM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: BladeOfAnduril27]  
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Check side window seals .the corners if they shrink will let water in .also base of "A" pillars ,fore wall seam all can leak water. Also door hinges where it bolts to the body .check if the sealer isnt cracked.


84ss current restoration
86 ss gone
85 ss new
85 z28 tpi
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#1067968 - 09/14/20 05:27 PM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: BladeOfAnduril27]  
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Alright, time for an update. I haven't had a ton of time to work on the car, but a little progress has been made.

I got the welder out of its box and set up, so it's ready to go now.

[Linked Image]

The seat mounts and driver's side of the floor brace is out (I cut it... still debating over whether that was a good idea or not but I figure I can weld it back together).

[Linked Image]

And I got the floor pan separated from the rocker area. The metal on the rocker side of the joint (which apparently isn't actually rocker panel, but a panel that is on top of the rocker panel) is in rough shape. Aside from getting a Sherman floor pan instead of the Goodmark I already have, that panel doesn't seem to be available as a replacement part. So I'll have to fab up a patch.

[Linked Image]

So the floor project continues. In other news....

I bought a 5th Gen Camaro console and e-brake handle. Unfortunately some dodo who owned it before me cut the brake cable which is "not replaceable". The whole assembly has to be replaced according to GM. Well screw that. So I pulled the cable stub out far enough to rotate the (spring loaded) assembly to the point that the cable barrel end could be popped out.

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Since GM doesn't think this is replaceable, a new cable isn't available. So my plan is to use a 4th gen Camaro cable and grind down the barrel end until it's roughly the same size as the 5th gen, then install it in the handle. I may have to weld a flange on the handle bracket for the end of the cable housing to pull up against. The 5th gen uses a hard pipe though the floor, while the 4th gen doesn't. Either way, I'm fairly sure I can make this work.

The last time I drove the car it had really sloppy steering (after installing a jeep shaft), and I know from swapping on the Blazer spindles the ball joints were well worn (but I was in a rush, so didn't replace them at the time). To address the steering, I ordered all new Moog ball joints and front steering components (minus tie rods, because they were already replaced). I'll be ordering P-S-T polygraphite control arm bushings as well.\

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I also had an issue with the brake pedal randomly plunging to the floor. Not cool. To take care of that, and since I'm already running Blazer brakes up front, S10 cylinders in the rear, and will probably swap in Blazer discs in the rear at some point in the future, I ordered a 2001 right-hand drive Blazer master cylinder. It's a direct bolt in and should be better matched to the brake parts I'm running currently. I also picked up rear parking brake cables for 4th gen Camaro with rear drum brakes for the handbrake conversion.

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I ordered a custom shifter knob that I'm quite excited about. I just received tracking information for it this morning so I'll share pics of that when it arrives.

Last edited by BladeOfAnduril27; 09/14/20 05:34 PM.

~ Matt H.

1988 Monte Carlo SS w/ T-tops, White with gray int, 350, Summit cam, World Torquer S/R heads, Holley St. Dominator intake, Edelbrock 600cfm carb, Champion 3-row alum radiator, ramchargers, 200-r4 with CK Shift Kit, billet servo, 2200 stall, Afterburner headers, Pypes 2.5" with x-pipe, Violator mufflers (stock exit), S10 front brake swap.
#1067972 - 09/15/20 12:16 AM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: BladeOfAnduril27]  
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Nice welder that will handle most garage jobs. I have the older Miller 140 Autoset and have used it a hundred times. I bought a 140 for a several reasons, it will weld nicely with the .024" wire on sheetmetal, and the .030 or 035 wire will handle most of the thicker steel you will run across. But the primary reason is just pick it and throw in the back of the van and go somewhere and glue something back together with a 120 outlet and a 12 AWG heavy extension cord. Just need to buy a plasma cutter to make things a little easier.

Did you fill the bottle yet? Welding gas has gone out of sight. Even if you stop welding for 10 minutes shut off the valve at the bottle. You will be surprised how quickly the bottle goes empty.

Keep working on that car, one of these days i will see it at Vargo. Won't happen this year, cancelled.
Bob

#1068009 - 09/17/20 05:41 PM Re: Blade's 1988 SS [Re: mmc427ss]  
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Originally Posted by mmc427ss
Nice welder that will handle most garage jobs. I have the older Miller 140 Autoset and have used it a hundred times. I bought a 140 for a several reasons, it will weld nicely with the .024" wire on sheetmetal, and the .030 or 035 wire will handle most of the thicker steel you will run across. But the primary reason is just pick it and throw in the back of the van and go somewhere and glue something back together with a 120 outlet and a 12 AWG heavy extension cord. Just need to buy a plasma cutter to make things a little easier.

Did you fill the bottle yet? Welding gas has gone out of sight. Even if you stop welding for 10 minutes shut off the valve at the bottle. You will be surprised how quickly the bottle goes empty.

Keep working on that car, one of these days i will see it at Vargo. Won't happen this year, cancelled.
Bob


Thanks! It seems like a nice unit, just haven't fired it up yet. I filled up the bottle quite a while back. Thanks for the tip on closing the valve. I wasn't really sure how fast its used up or how well the welder stops the flow when the trigger isn't pulled.

Last edited by BladeOfAnduril27; 09/17/20 05:42 PM.

~ Matt H.

1988 Monte Carlo SS w/ T-tops, White with gray int, 350, Summit cam, World Torquer S/R heads, Holley St. Dominator intake, Edelbrock 600cfm carb, Champion 3-row alum radiator, ramchargers, 200-r4 with CK Shift Kit, billet servo, 2200 stall, Afterburner headers, Pypes 2.5" with x-pipe, Violator mufflers (stock exit), S10 front brake swap.

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