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#1069990 - 03/21/21 08:40 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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I'm confused... I thought you were taking parts off of the 88 to restore your 87 aero?


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#1069991 - 03/21/21 09:51 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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I was going to take my aero parts off, lift out the frame, build everything frame-up until I could find an OK shell to piece together. Then this one popped up. I've had several people ask why I don't save the damaged one, and quite simply, there is no saving it. It needs the whole roof, fenders, doors, floor, then the interior, wiring, everything under the hood, etc. Literally everything forward of the aerocoupe components needs replaced. It would be the work of insanity if someone actually did that.

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#1069993 - 03/21/21 11:27 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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I guess I'm insane because I've built several burns like that over the years. All those parts you mention are available.
I'd want to rebuild it just because of the history and family.


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#1069997 - 03/22/21 02:41 AM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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That's.. exactly why I kept every single piece that survived. I'd rather buy a house than to graft 40 Tuff Sheds together to make one livable space. That's the same logic some people have used in defense of "saving" the old car. There is nothing usable left of it. Nothing. To suggest I *save* the old car is redundant, to put it nicely.

#1069998 - 03/22/21 02:51 AM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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I'm not entertaining this argument further. If anyone wants to be captain automotive save-a-hoe, feel free to DM me and I'll give you the contact of who has it now. Just be sure to post up your build thread where, when all is said and done, you threw away 100% of what you started with.

#1070000 - 03/22/21 12:18 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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I get it completely. I'm sure it was a hard decision to make. I've struggled with mine over the last several years on selling it cause I hate seeing it sit there and get progressively more difficult to keep it reliable. If you plan on selling any aerocoupe parts, id be interested.


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#1070003 - 03/22/21 01:37 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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I don't think he is selling any of the aerocouple parts. He is use to to convert the other car to a aerocouple


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#1070004 - 03/22/21 02:31 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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I'm sure it's salvageable/restorable but the amount of work/parts needed I can see the decision made to find a clean donor, swap parts over. It would be a very hard decision, not sure which way I'd go personally but unless you have the skills personally to fabricate the cost would probably be pretty extensive, not to mention finding a place you trust to do good work, not cobble it together could be another challenge. If you possess the skills do it, that takes away those issues.


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#1070007 - 03/22/21 03:22 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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The big factor not shown in photos is that aside from the frame itself, every single part needs replaced. 20 minutes of ~1200° heat warped the roof, fenders, doors, even the firewall. Between the car living 13 years in the rust belt and all the water sprayed from the fire department that sat for 22 years, the floor pans are incinerated. Once everything was replaced, there'd be nothing left of the original. I try to explain to people who don't quite follow what I'm doing, that I'm taking every usable piece off the car. And aside from the frame, engine, and trans, all those usable pieces are the aerocoupe components plus taillights and bumper cover.

Believe me, I've stressed over all options since 1999 and this is the only real practical method. The other option was to build-up from the frame to a clean shell and such. Both options require a donor car, so I figured I'd start with something low miles and cared for. It's not like I'm "ruining" the donor car. Just doing what 6,052 other ones had done.

#1070008 - 03/22/21 03:40 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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I'll admit, I was a little confused and thought that you were abandoning the Aero altogether and just going to enjoy the low mile car as-is. But I get it now, you are "aero-ing" the donor rather than basically starting with a trimmed trunk and rear window and grafting the rest of the car to it?


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It ain't much off the line, but it's nice on the highway
#1070009 - 03/22/21 03:47 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: Hunter79764]  
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That's the plan. My guy up in Omaha has done two conversions already. He somehow acquired the actual GM instruction booklet that they sent to C&C for the aerocoupe conversion. He's excited to get in there and use the same orange sealer they used, mimic the same welds, etc. I'm incredibly fortunate to live an hour away from this guy.

#1070010 - 03/22/21 05:01 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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Thanks! I got lost with what your plan was. Taking that nice clean 88 and making it an aero using the parts from the burned car makes sense.


~ Matt H.

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#1070011 - 03/22/21 06:43 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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The 88 is really nice platform to start with. Should be a very nice car when finished without years of restoration needed to get there.


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#1070013 - 03/22/21 09:35 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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Thanks, guys. I'm excited to have it back.

#1070017 - 03/23/21 12:45 AM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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Post the guys shop if you don't mind. Mine needs paint and I'm not trusting just anyone with it. ESP when it comes to rear window removal.


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#1070019 - 03/23/21 01:36 AM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: tomh115]  
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He runs a g-body specific salvage yard and shop. He knows this particular swap, but I don't think he does paint. The shop is called Peterson Automotive & Performance in Omaha, Nebraska.

So far, the rear tray and trunk lid has been removed.

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#1070038 - 03/23/21 07:46 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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dillon is good guy, he knows what he is doing.

fyi i have the metal aero tray, i pulled from and totaled aero if you guys need that. Dillon's been to my house a few times picking up parts

good luck and cool build


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#1070145 - 03/31/21 12:22 AM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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#1070152 - 03/31/21 08:39 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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#1070156 - 03/31/21 09:49 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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Looks great!

Did he cut through the seal lip, like C&C did? or did he just flatten the lip when laying the aerocoupe package tray in place? The C&C attention to detail was terrible. They didn't debur the cut, which looked like it was done with a sawzall, or paint the underside where they made the cut.

Marc

#1070157 - 03/31/21 10:05 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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I'm not certain, but I believe he mimic'd the C&C procedure identically. He and I both want it to look like an original job.

#1070177 - 04/01/21 10:08 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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Some final adjustments and interior reassembly, then it's good to go!

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#1070178 - 04/01/21 11:29 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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Very cool. You must be very happy and proud.

#1070223 - 04/04/21 11:33 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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That looks fantastic thank you for sharing this with us!


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#1070231 - 04/05/21 01:27 PM Re: Aerocoupe fire damage restoration [Re: AeroSS_87]  
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Right down to the rear seat brace. Very nice transition!
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