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#1058548 - 08/09/18 05:22 AM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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Its been long overdue..... But some things just take time.

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I finally have tires for the wheels I purchased.

I have a set of the Center Line wheels. American muscle series MM6B. I know there not the best wheels, but they were budget friendly. Also, it didn't hurt that ebay had a 20% off deal at the time I purchased in 2017. Wrapped them in the also wallet friendly Federal performance tires on a 15% off deal. Its not the G-Force Sport Comp 2 tires I wanted, but its something.

Front: 245/40/17 on 17x8
Rear: 275/40/17 on 17x9

Swapped the alternator yesterday evening. I also learned something new. I have the Torque app on a tablet for my gauges. The app reads the voltage at the OBD2 plug. Even though the alternator was bad, I still wasn't getting an accurate reading.

Next thing I want to do, is clean up some of the wires under the hood. It will take time, but should be cheap to accomplish.


1987 Monte Carlo SS
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#1058573 - 08/11/18 01:23 PM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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Like the wheels looks good


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86 ss gone
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#1058619 - 08/15/18 04:17 AM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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Originally Posted by Witness86SS
Welcome back!

Thanks. The break was entirely too long.

Originally Posted by 84ss355*4spd
Like the wheels looks good

Yea, I obsessed over the color options. There is an Anthracite Grey color that I liked, but the lip was machined and seemed too shiny for my taste.



Took my first test drive on the new tire setup. I took my normal loop, with a S-curve that I usually take going 30ish mph. When tempted I sometimes hit 40 mph. On those moments I get a decent amount of tire squeal through this curse. This time no squeal, but it was a completely different steering wheel feedback feeling. Also, the ride quality was significantly different. I was feeling all the bumps I usually glide right over. Got on it a few times, usually the rear would be on skates. This time, a chirp or two. I actually missed the stock tire lighting up whenever I get on it.

I put the stocks back on, to save the 17's for an autocross event. Hopefully, I'm at a event in September. Did some wire tucking in the engine bay. Its starting to look like something presentable. But now I want to take the entire 3-wire setup out. Redo the fuse and relays wiring and mounts.


1987 Monte Carlo SS
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#1058972 - 09/06/18 04:47 AM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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Took a ride on the interstate to hit a car show. It was a 25 mile run wide open, 60 - 70 mph the whole way. Running at 70 mph, I was turning around 2500 rpm on the 275/40/17. The Federals do have some road noise, but it was drowned out by the exhaust. Got to the show, but my old faded primer car wasn't what they was looking for. A few looks and nodes as I parked on the outskirts of the shows.

September 23 is the next autocross. The only thing I can think of, is an alignment. 2 years of f-ing around and now I'll finally get the chance to screw with the CAM guys.


1987 Monte Carlo SS
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#1059099 - 09/17/18 01:15 AM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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Beautiful day for a drive. One of the New Orleans Cars and Coffee takes place on the lakefront. I cruised down a few miles of sunny lakefront. Looked at a few cars and let the kid take in the water sights. .
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Butttttt all good things come to an end. Started the drive home and about half a mile in, the engine starts to sputter under acceleration. Pulled over to check under the hood, nothing funny. Decided to limp home, and the sputtering increased to even happen at stops. I had just put 5 gallons in the tank on the drive. So, i will go through the standard list items.

Bad gas
Clogged filter
Spark plugs
Wires
Coils

Anything missing??


Also, with some internet research. I need to look into the MAF. Damn, I think I can get through the list before Saturday's autocross. Damn.....


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#1059111 - 09/18/18 05:27 PM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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Loose distributor ?

#1059119 - 09/19/18 01:03 AM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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That sucks dude. I had random sputtering from weak ignition last year. No problems since I fixed up the electricals. My guess is sensor issue or weak power to ignition overall. Not an individual plug cable or coil

Good luck!


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1059120 - 09/19/18 02:00 AM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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Don't forget to check the rotor under the distributor cap. I had mine fail on a drive.. started as a sputter that got worse to the point the car shut off. Screws had come loose.

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#1059122 - 09/19/18 01:11 PM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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He's got an LS, so it isn't a distributor, but you should probably check grounds on ignition coils and/or fuel injectors. I had a stumbling under load problem on mine, ended up being the ground on the back of the head that was loose by a couple of turns, and under load the engine pulled away from the harness and lost contact. The "under load" part was what threw me the most, I was looking for fouled plugs, weak fuel pressure, bad sensors, etc before I finally saw it happen in the driveway when I pulled on a wire harness and killed the engine...

Anyway, good luck on tracking it down. Drain your gas to rule that out, check fuel pressure, and check grounds. A single plug, wire, or coil should be a miss, but not necessarily a sputter. And the odds of multiple similar parts failing at the same time is much less likely than a single ground or power circuit that is giving you issues. As for sensors, probably MAF and MAP are the ones that come to mind to throw off the driveability like that. I'd guess MAF over MAP, but it would probably throw a code.


Sometimes you just need a bigger hammer...

'85 MC with budget 5.3L swap, TH350 with stock 2.14 rear end
It ain't much off the line, but it's nice on the highway
#1059175 - 09/22/18 05:27 AM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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Thanks for the suggestions. Well, I started with the easy stuff. Pumped the tank (electric fuel pump), changed the fuel filter, checked the grounds, and cleaned the MAF. All the quick cheap options, no dice.

I think I found the issue. Popped a spark plug out just to see the condition. Saw it and knew to pull and replace them all. I had to wait a few days to get new plugs.

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Those poor electrodes were limping to the finish line. Car runs, but I have to work the weekend so no more Autocross.


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#1059254 - 09/29/18 03:15 PM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: Hunter79764]  
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Originally Posted by Hunter79764
He's got an LS, so it isn't a distributor,
Lol!! conf

I hope you find the fault soon. It's frustrating to wrench on your car when it has recently been put together.


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#1059368 - 10/10/18 06:07 PM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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I think our cars share a soul or something.

I stepped on the gas last night and it just sputtered and tried to flatline. Tried that 3 times before i limped home at 1200 RPM.

Alternator was not keeping up. I shut off everything but the fans and headlights, but the volt meter wouldn't go above 10. =[


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1059415 - 10/15/18 08:06 AM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Originally Posted by Witness86SS
I think our cars share a soul or something.

I stepped on the gas last night and it just sputtered and tried to flatline. Tried that 3 times before i limped home at 1200 RPM.

Alternator was not keeping up. I shut off everything but the fans and headlights, but the volt meter wouldn't go above 10. =[

Damn. Hopefully your fix is cheap and easy.

As for me, I've just been reading all these Cam swap 5.3 stories and articles.

http://www.cpgnation.com/the-100-horsepower-upgrade/

I'm slowly convincing myself this needs to happen. But this might be something for a shop

Other moneypit items....
Coilovers
Posi and rearend upgrade
Bodywork and paint...

or I can take a vacation with friends to the Keys this July........ decisions


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#1059418 - 10/15/18 03:01 PM Re: The Rebirth of my nameless 87 Monte Carlo [Re: WB of NOLA]  
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Cam should be cheap and doable. Can probably scrounge up a 7.5 posi for next to nothing. Feed the beast!


Justin
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