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#1058466 - 08/02/18 02:42 AM Element fire extringuisher  
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Anyone have one of them yet?
Have never been one to dump 5 lbs of dry chemical on a fire, only truely deserving fires got that treatment. Saw this Leno Infomercial.
https://elementfire.com/pages/media

Might have to buy a few, one for the workbench at the shop, one under the kitchen sink and one under the driver seat of the 86. Don't need one for my 95 Astro with 260K, have been looking for a replacement vehicle anyway. A few times have seen flames at the shop, nothing to serious to require an Element to be used, but. Once lite up a pint of cooking oil on the stove, forgetfulness, and a happy ending, well almost, carpet in the kitchen ended up with the kids drawing a smiley face in the 10" hole, wife never liked the old carpet she picked anyhow. Anyone who has been playing with engines for years has seen flames under the hood once or twice, or, some have lost count.

Two 20lb ABC hanging in the shop now. Under the kitchen sink is a 2lb and at times carry a 2 lb in the 86, it lays on the floor, trunk is not a good place for it. All are out of date and need replaced. Way back when I was the building super for a newspaper having 40+ extinguishers the bill averaged about 500 bucks a year to get an annual inspection and certs done. I'm not surprised mine are overdue to be replaced, most everyone's are, they aren't forever. And they make a mess!

The only thing I don't like about the Element is I've got several ABC extinguishers laying around and having another family school on their use could be like a little party refreshing them on what not to do with them relating to a fire and and an ABC. Larger ABC extinguishers are expensive, refilling is expensive. Element should sell a six pack of E25s as a family pack so you have one to throw away after everyone sees a hand on demo. Especially the loved ones who would get an Element for their kitchen at Christmas.

Hmmm, they take Paypal, time to see what these things are all about. Just bought two E25, one for the workbench and one for the wife.

Element can't be shipped via air, doesn't have a UL cert and is made in Italy. none of which will stop me from buying one.
Bob

#1058476 - 08/02/18 02:47 PM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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That's pretty cool, I've never heard of them. Seems like a solid idea, and I like that they don't expire or "go bad". I might see about getting one or two for the house. We've got an old wood-frame house with just about zero protections against fire (besides alarms that only tell you when it is too late to stop it...

Thanks for the info.


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#1058477 - 08/02/18 07:15 PM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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Kind of like a road flare in operation, putting one in my Harley saddlebag seems like a good idea.


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#1058481 - 08/03/18 04:34 AM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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I'm thinking one will fit in a Monte glove box, won't know until they arrive on Mon. Bought two E25, may buy a couple more if they live up to expectations.
Bob

#1058486 - 08/03/18 05:21 PM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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kind of pricey, $59.00 for the 25 second unit, $79 for the 50, $119 for the 100 second unit, but still a very cool product

#1058556 - 08/10/18 05:00 AM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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The two Element E25s showed up yesterday. One went right into the glove box of the 86 and fits easily side to side, that will be it's permanent home. Not much else resides there, a pen, small note pad and the registration and insurance cards, this by choice. Now I have full time coverage for the car, and others. The 1 lb H3R Perf Max Out that would last about 4 seconds and is 7 years old isn't needed anymore, not that it ever really resided in the car for long.

The two 10 lb Amerex ABC in the shop are WAY over due for certs and probably would be junk if i sent them to be recharged, to old. The newest, certed 2005, 10 lb will stay hanging on a lally column for now, will replace it with a new 10 lb ABC. The other E25 will be at hands reach on the main workbench. One of each type close at hand.

Will replace the very old 2 lb Sentry (Ansul) under the sink with a new 2 lb and buy another E25 to hang in the laundry room adjacent to the kitchen.

Going to buy two more E25s, one for the laundry and the other to train the family on it's use. The oldest 10 lb and the old 2 lb will be emptied along with an E25 so everyone is familiar with putting out small fires. It's been so wet here in the East this year there is no problem having a fire extinguisher class. Even though I've been through several of these training events it good to do the refresher. It's time for even my 9 year old grandson to learns what to do.

By the way the little E25 has a 25 second discharge time, a 10 lb ABC is less than 20 sec.
A quality Amerex or Ansul 10lb ABC is about 85 bucks and up.
The packaging of the E25 is very nice, quality, not some Chinese card box.
The Element is an ABC and K rated, K is oil and grease, not many extinguisher can say that.
It has a plastic wall hanger that the E25 snaps into, makes it easy to hang on a vertical surface 2" wide.
It's classified as a pyrotechnic, that's why it can't be easily transported in an airplane, rules.
It is Made in Italy and is distributed out of Canada, hmm.
One of my concerns is how will the Element perform on a wind day fire. It's just a basically a fogger, no pressure forcing the flow toward the fire. On the other hand putting out a fire in the kitchen you don't want to blow it, oil or grease, all over the place, K rating.
Another concerns is someone may think it's a road flare when they find one and not be able to read.

When it finally cools off here in the next couple months will dump a few extinguishers out back and then have a really good idea how good the Element is. I'm not one to get caught up in hype and new fangled products but the Element just hit me as something I need to have, all knowing I was going to spend 60 bucks to see what they are all about.
Bob

#1058719 - 08/22/18 08:41 AM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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I need one when the wife try's to grill !! really though I keep a home depot style in my car . I like the idea of no mess afterwards.


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#1059001 - 09/08/18 12:39 AM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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I just ordered 2 of the E50s myself. I also contacted Element to get additional info on the extinguishers and they asked me which forum I belong to and gave them the website. The person I contacted is Paul Calisi and told me to let everyone know that they are there to answer any questions anyone may have about the extinguishers. Paul indicated that they may considering joining this forum after I mentioned to him that members here were interested in their products. We'll see what happens.


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#1059003 - 09/08/18 01:06 AM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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Cool.
We were at a show last weekend, had to open the glove box to get "the pen", nice to see the E25 neatly laying in there. I think an E50 would fit there.

Found two more old extinguishers laying around, will now need a bigger barbecue for the Element vs the old ABCs.

Not sure how all this plays out. The Element North America business/distribution is in Canada. The sticks are made in Italy. Seems there is always a complication when getting something from Canada. Now that our north neighbor is not happy with us who knows what happens with getting a price break on group buys or something like that.
Bob

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#1059046 - 09/12/18 02:23 AM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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Originally Posted by mmc427ss
Cool.
We were at a show last weekend, had to open the glove box to get "the pen", nice to see the E25 neatly laying in there. I think an E50 would fit there.

Found two more old extinguishers laying around, will now need a bigger barbecue for the Element vs the old ABCs.

Not sure how all this plays out. The Element North America business/distribution is in Canada. The sticks are made in Italy. Seems there is always a complication when getting something from Canada. Now that our north neighbor is not happy with us who knows what happens with getting a price break on group buys or something like that.
Bob


When I ordered my E50s, I noticed that the E25 was not listed/available. I was just informed by Paul at Element that they are out of stock on the E25s and they are evaluating if they will continue to restock the E25s. Paul indicated that for a little more money, you can purchase the E50 and will last twice as long.

I hope the E50 fits in the glove box or maybe the center console.


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#1059050 - 09/12/18 04:40 AM Re: Element fire extringuisher [Re: mmc427ss]  
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The 25 and 50 are the same size, 11.75"x1.2", both will fit easily in the glove box.
Bob


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