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#1057287 - 05/14/18 04:53 PM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Thanks Bob,
I bought a 12 inch hinge for it. I saw a post where a guy welded 3 tabs to it and slipped it under the plastic. Seems easy enough.

I got a cheapy press. It needs to work twice. Moog lower ball joints are in the mail. Perfect 2 weeks ahead for this. Rain rain and more rain so she was grounded anyways.

Spent Saturday night getting the garage ready for this. I couldn't even see the workbench before.


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057303 - 05/15/18 02:47 PM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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This project is exploding with, while I'm in there...

Just ordered energy suspension LCA bushings, Moog sway bar end links and sway bar bushings.

Contemplating dual piston blazer brakes, steering box and pump. Or maybe manual steering box. They can wait though


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057473 - 05/28/18 07:05 PM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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wow, rebuilding LCA's is no joke. Just got done pressing the bushings and ball joints with a $50 amazon kit and a breaker bar. Time for a beer break.

They turned out great though. Only way i could be happier is if the VHT epoxy paint was actually gloss like the cap showed.

Got the front end all repainted underneath too. Weird layer of goop on it all probably kept it from rusting. I think it was just road grit, brake dust and oil. It was close to a quarter inch thick. I scraped it with a putty knife then the wire wheel. Pretty sure i leak from the timing cover.

I'm at complete reassemble stage now. Everything is off, all parts are cleaned up and prepped. Only thing I'm worried about is spring installation. I have the spring compressor from pep boys.


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057478 - 05/29/18 12:28 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Steering kit is in. All 4 control arms are in. Driver's side spring is in. I'm calling it a night. I trapped the spring compressor inside the driver's side twice. Was not happy about that. Was able to not have to remove the spring the second time.

Out of steam. Been at it for 3 12 hour days.

1 spring, 2 shocks and a sway bar to go.

This car is going to the 80's show on Friday night.


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057480 - 05/29/18 02:36 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Nice and rusty. This will all need to be wire wheeled and painted.
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Got my chain on it.
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Did not know what I was doing so I got some advice. Shock was stuck and keeping the LCA from fully extending. I cut the shock off with a hacksaw.
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Managed not to kill myself getting the springs out. Did not know what to expect. Read a lot of comments about how dangerous it was. Not too dangerous if you take some precautions.
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LCA's out.
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Bushings are all cracked up
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Covered in grime.
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Bunch more crap that got removed.
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Cleaned up my wheel well. Painted most of the frame from the doors forward now.
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Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057481 - 05/29/18 02:40 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Bushing removal. They got so hot they launched out of the control arm.
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I ended up having to hacksaw out the sleeves. What a tremendous pain in the rear.
Also cleaned up and repainted my sway bar brackets.
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First pass with the wire wheel.
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Both Cleaned up well.
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Painted and ready for pressing.
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Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057482 - 05/29/18 02:48 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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This was a puzzle to solve. The right sleeves, spacers and support. I thought this was pretty tough.
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Pressed all of the bushings in. Now for the Ball Joints.
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I thought the bushings were a PITA, but this was nuts. I read advice about having a shop press them, about how you really want to use a hydraulic press if you do it at home. I used the $50 amazon kit and a 3 foot breaker bar and it was a struggle. I had to stand on the control arm as i cranked, and cranked. I had to pop the first one out a couple times because I could not get it to go in straight. Tough to get the press lined up by yourself in your driveway.
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Sway bar cleanup, before.
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After. Now I have a fancy red muscle car sway bar.
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Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057483 - 05/29/18 02:58 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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I got this nice and clean under here for the first time. Serious levels of grime on it. I think all the oil kept that steel nice and fresh though. No rust at all.
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Old Steering Junk
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New Steering Kit. Idler arm is already installed. Now the gearbox will be the only original component
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Steering is in
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All 4 control arms are back in. Ended up reusing the shims. They were a little rusty, but they and many other parts sat in the evaporust overnight.
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I got 1 spring back in the car. I ended up getting the spring compressor pinched the first time and had to remove the whole spring again. I took some precautions and then i got it stuck again. Was able to use my prybar and get it out this time.
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Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057484 - 05/29/18 03:10 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Dealer Art from 87. A friend had a bunch in storage and dug this out for me. He's been saving them until he finds the right person for the particular picture.
Best part is I used to have a white 87 LS that looked just like that too. The perfect picture. He didn't even know that this weekend marked 2 years since i bought the monte.
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Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057485 - 05/29/18 03:56 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Nice work Justin... Looks great. Now, get er finished up for the show...


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#1057499 - 05/30/18 02:13 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Thanks Lance! Got everything on tonight but the sway bar end links. Then I need to torque everything to spec and put in the cotter pins.

I think I need to reseat the driver spindle though. It doesn't move real easy.


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057502 - 05/30/18 02:47 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Good job ! Looks good .hard work pays off.will feel grear steering it. Have upgraded the steering shaft to the jeep one yet.since your in there lol.but seriously it makes a big difference over tje rag joint oem one


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#1057507 - 05/30/18 04:30 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: 84ss355*4spd]  
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Thanks! I got the GM version of the jeep shaft last year. That was a huge difference. Rag joint was shot.


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057535 - 05/31/18 01:32 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Nice. Gm version hey ...interesting .what vehicle is it from


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#1057540 - 05/31/18 02:22 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: 84ss355*4spd]  
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I got it from an astro van. If I had known the work involved I probably would have paid the $65on the forum here. You have to chisel off the peen inside the u-joint. Then magically without destroying the shaft with the vice or your BFH, you pound the u-joint off. Rotate it 90 degrees, pound it back on and weld it.

I finished the car tonight. I got the end links on the sway bar, then torqued everything according to a post on turbobuick.

https://turbobuick.com/threads/front-end-torque-specs.315550/

I greased all the ball joints until they had grease leaking out, then took her for a spin.

The steering wheel is way off, but everything felt good. I even hit a pothole and the car took it like a champ. I'll take it to the show on friday since it is down the street and get some advice on who to use for the alignment this weekend.

Now that I've rebuilt a front end I need to learn some basics about it like caster camber and toe. I get what they stand for, i just have no idea what you want and what that does for you. I have a little idea on how to achieve them with the shims and tie rods.


Justin
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350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057541 - 05/31/18 02:33 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Looking at my pics now and I spotted something i didn't do. I didn't swap the rubber bump stops on the upper control arms. I hope that isn't impossible now that it is back together


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057566 - 06/01/18 01:53 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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I'm a cheap b@stard. If it drives straight, if the wheel is straight and it doesn't pull, do I still take it to the alignment shop?


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057571 - 06/01/18 01:09 PM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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If its bot pulling amd u can take your hands off the wheel on a level road it should keep going straight. If it does your good .

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#1057627 - 06/04/18 04:24 PM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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So its got a comically high ride height. It rides so good but the front is up and the rear is down. I'm hoping its because I torqued the LCA bolts before I loaded the springs. Should take 10 min to fix tonight


Justin
1986 Black SS
350 L05 - Hooker Longtubes - FlowMaster True Dual 2.5" - Electric Cutouts - Electric Fans - Transcooler
#1057638 - 06/05/18 12:48 AM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Got one side to come down. I'll try again tomorrow.


Justin
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#1057655 - 06/05/18 11:14 PM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Tjats good info. Let us know how u remedy it . Im stripping my frint end right now to do the same thing .but install on the new frame


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#1058377 - 07/25/18 06:38 PM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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So one adventure leads to another. That 400 vs 454 thread has really put the torque bug up my xxxx . So I'm researching ways to add torque to my engine. Torque is what I want. It's becoming increasingly clear to me that I just don't drive the car the right way to have drag strip performance translate into daily driver satisfaction.

There isn't a road around me where I can realistically do more than 2nd gear in WOT. On top of that, I really have no desire to take that car over 85MPH.

I have a 350 TBI engine with flat tappet and no roller provisions. I spent a few hours watching videos about how to port the heads for more torque.
I want to do it but I don't want to risk my heads. Also want to put a low RPM high torque cam in it. If necessary match it to a better torque converter and rear end gear. Not convinced on either of them as the way to go though.

Looked up buying a set of cleaned up TBI heads and they want $133 plus shipping.

So I just looked up the whole engine and found a guy selling a functional one for $100 an hour away from me. He says the head gasket is cracked. I pick that up sunday.

Probably a big mistake, but now I can do the engine work and drive it at the same time.

I know vortec and all those fancy heads are better race heads, but i consistently see a power band outside of my casual driving and a significant sacrifice of low end torque to achieve that.

It is my understanding that in a 350 you really can't do much better than TBI swirlport 193 heads for low RPM high gas efficiency torque.

So minimal cost and I get to play with an engine on a stand for a month or so and maybe I wind up with an upgrade.


Justin
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#1059274 - 10/02/18 02:39 PM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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I've only been doing the car thing for about 2.5 years now.

When I first got this car it took me hours to change a single header gasket. At the time I said it was the hardest thing I ever did on a car.(lol @ this statement)

Swapped my swiss cheese gasket out last night in 30 minutes.

It feels good to get better at this.


Justin
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#1059275 - 10/02/18 06:09 PM Re: Witness Me! [Re: Witness86SS]  
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Ive got the exact picture in my basement.


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