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#1057246 - 05/11/18 03:32 AM Opinion on Wheels  
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I'm finally feeling better and plan on getting back on the resurrection of the Monte very soon. I haven't bought the wheels yet and while I won't need them for a few months, it seems the last few wheels I was seriously considering for the car have been discontinued. So, I think I'm going to decide on a set and go ahead and get them. The latest that's caught my attention are the Pro Wheels "Honey Combs". While the real "Honey Combs" are considered Pontiac wheels, these look a lot more like the N90s painted black than they do the old Pontiac wheels, or at least they do to me. What do you guys think?

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I really want to get these. However, I'm having a hard enough time coming off 2-grand for wheels and these are over $3K shipped.
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#1057251 - 05/11/18 01:00 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: BadSS]  
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I'm with you on the price... too much for wheels.


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#1057256 - 05/11/18 02:15 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: BadSS]  
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I like best the one at the top actually, but it depends on what you are doing to the rest of the car and your colors. What sizes are you considering?
Agreed that at $3K its not a good investment unless its a show car and/or has a real compelling design.
I just bought American Racing Torqu-Thrust M's in 18" for under $900. Black with Machined lips.
Can you buy the 17x8 N90s and have the centers painted? Would be under $1000.

#1057260 - 05/11/18 05:53 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: BadSS]  
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I think the top pic looks plenty like the N90, and even if it did look more Pontiac, I don't see that as a bad thing unless you are really set on brand loyalty...
Have you considered the Year One N90's in 17"? Less than $1000 for the full kit. When I get to that point, I'll be looking at the Magnum billet wheels from them. About the same price, and they would be a homage to the 14" SS396 wheels I've had on mine since I got the car.


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#1057263 - 05/11/18 09:39 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: BadSS]  
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Opinions on wheels is like navels, we all have one.
That said, I am partial to the Boss 338 style, your opinion may differ.

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#1057266 - 05/11/18 11:45 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: BadSS]  
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I agree, Boss 338 !!! That would look very nice!!





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#1057272 - 05/12/18 01:16 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: BadSS]  
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Thanks for the feedback. It’s black and will be getting a nice paint job – maybe not show quality but close. It used to be a daily driver that was heavily grudge raced. Now it’ll be mainly driven to cruise-ins and local car shows and maybe an occasional race if I can’t control myself.

The frame is notched and while it doesn’t have mini-tubs, the fender lip is cut flush and a BFH was used to mold and stretch the metal to be flush with the frame notch. There’s room enough to fit 12” of section width for clearance – it’ll be lowered about 3” and I want the car to be even or have very little rake to it. I want to run 26- 26.5” tall on the rear and there’s not a 17” tire that fits that criteria – they’re either not wide enough or too wide. So, I’m planning on 18x10s on the rear with more than likely a 295/35/18 Pilot Super Sport (26.1 x 11.9). Now, there’s a 18x10 Torq Thrust that has the backspacing I need, but there are so many cars with them and there’s not a front that fits my criteria.

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So, I can’t find a reasonably priced off-the-shelf set that will let me take full advantage of the rear wheel-well opening. There are some good looking 9” and 9.5” wheels that would “fit” and could run a 275/40/17 or 285/35/18 but you can run those without a frame notch. Plus I don’t like the look of an 8” rim with a 0 offset (4.5” backspacing) – they look recessed in comparison to the rear, especially if you max out the rear opening.

That said, I may just concede the full rear fill and go with a set of the Torq Thrust II or one of the following:

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Original owner of 1985 SS black hardtop w/gray interior. Frame-on restoration - 406 sleeper w/ heavily ported FIRST TPI. However the 1.875" headers, 3.5" duals, TH400, Ford 9", notched frame, and 10-point cage w/swing-out bars might tip you off it's not a lil' ole 305 TPI. Other mods: 2" drop, 18" wheels, f/r disk brakes, and custom stereo system.
#1057274 - 05/12/18 02:53 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: BadSS]  
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Kevin, I found my self in the same space. Notched with mini-tub (didn't roll the lip) and working on a number of spreadsheets to match tires and wheel.
The better tires don't have selections in the 17" or below as you noted, thus the 18" is my target too.
But then the widths and bolt patterns don't always match.

As regards tires - the Michelin Pilot Super Sports are THE superior tire in so many ways (lots of data there) esp if you will occasionally "need" to let off some steam- hahaha.It will however be a harsher/noisier ride, but it does come in 295. Up north we are reminded to not only not drive below say 40 deg but to removed them during cold temperature storage. Moving to a more civilized and forgiving ride, there is the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ (and similar) their ultra performance all season. As a Goodyear retiree I get great discounts so will put on the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric all season. These come only up to 285. No final decision yet.

As regards wheels - I also picked the old school look. I went black with machined lips to contrast my silver car, whereas you are looking for aluminum, chrome or even PVD (black chrome?). Choices again limited (esp in black) and when I found the wheels with the right BS it was the wrong bolt pattern. Typically I can get our patterns in 8" but often not in the larger sizes. I finally bought the Torque-Thrust Ms in 18x8 with 4.5 BS in the front and and 18x10 with 7.25 BS ,BUT they were only available with a 5x4.5 inch bolt pattern. I will be using a 1.25" wheel adapter to make the match, this gives me 6" BS equivalent which I can easily handle. I am planning on running 245/40-18 in the front and 285 or 295/35-18 in the rear. Good news is that the larger diameter tires have less bulge so will free up more room. Just received the wheels and will mock up (dry mount) the wheels next week to confirm tire size. Sorry I can't give you any confirmation of fit as yet.

Have you considered going to the 9" wheels in the front? Your first choice wheel has I think an 18x9 with a 5" BS in 5x4/75? I think others have reported going as large as 9.5"?

#1057276 - 05/12/18 04:37 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: BadSS]  
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Thanks for the feedback Double A, I appreciate it. I usually don't have a problem making a decision but I am on the wheels. I'm trying to stick with a "retro" theme in that I'm building more or less the car I wanted to build back in the late 80s/90s. I always wanted to run a 406 with the big TPI intake originally made by Air Sensors Research under their Fuel Injection Research Systems Technology (FIRST) EFI intake line - but they wouldn't sell without the electronics and wanted around $3K. They sold out to Aeromotive and sold the intake as the "IRS" and they wouldn't sell it without electronics either. Later First Fuel Injections bought out the foundry rights and started selling them as the FIRST without electronics and I finally bought one.

I'm keeping the interior stock with custom gauges in the shadow box and pro ratchet shifter in the stock console. I do have a cage in the car, but it fits tightly and I have swing-out bars on both doors and for the back seat that I remove for normal street duty and put in for track outings.

I have a 9" rear (3.5 gears, Detroit Locker, adjustable rotojoint lower and adjustable Art Morrison upper bars, and an anti-roll bar) with disk brakes and running stock front brakes with upgraded calipers for the front. I have double adjustable shocks on the front with drop spindles, and IROC springs and front swaybar for the front. I'm not doing autocross racing and never thought the stock suspension and braking was terrible, so I'm sure I'll be fine with the handling and braking without having gone too crazy on those.

I wouldn't say this is a budget build, but I'm having a REALLY hard time coming off the coin for custom wheels. However, I know that if I get the wheels and the front tires sit in too far it's going to drive me crazy. That's why I'm fairly certain I'm going to have to go with custom wheels. I was going to go with the Billet Specialities Anthems with rivets (a semblance to the old Simmons wheels) and could have bought them for under $1500 a couple years ago. However, I decided not to buy anything until I was ready to put the car on the road and now those have been discontinued, along with the 17" RT's that I was also considering. My next choice were Center Line Matrix (similar look to the old Gotti wheels of the 80s) if I could get the clowns to do a 4.25" backspacing, but they said they would have to charge extra and they never got back with me on the price - now they're out of business (go figure). I really didn’t want to run adapters but there are a lot more wheels available that’s for sure.

I also did a spread sheet and I need something with a -6 offset for the front: 8” with 4.25”, 8.5” with 4.5” (Vision makes one) or a 9” with 4.75” backspacing. It looks like a 9.5 with 5” backspacing has the potential to fit. I know some here have run a 17x9.5 with 275/40/17s with modified suspensions, but with the drop spindles I can’t run any more than 4.25” backspacing with a 17” rim (tie rod clearance) and would have to go 18s up front. I’m not totally opposed to 18s up front, but did want a little more sidewall than the 18s would give me.

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#1057277 - 05/12/18 04:49 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: BadSS]  
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Im going to purchase one of these just for the peace of mind, you can get them used on ebay cheap


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#1057279 - 05/12/18 05:08 PM Re: Opinion on Wheels [Re: MC96]  
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Im going to purchase one of these just for the peace of mind, you can get them used on ebay cheap


I went old school taping strings and weights to the inside of the fenders, straight edges on the hubs and a tape measure. That WheelRite looks appealing, especially with the profile simulator.


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