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#1038981 - 05/11/16 08:54 PM Re: A clutch pedal with an OEM feel! [Re: SickSpeedMonte]  
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Bernie, does your new universal master design bring the clutch pedal down so that it's closer to the height of the brake pedal? It looks like that from the pics you posted above but I wasn't sure. If so, is that pedal position set, or is it dependent on the master used? Thanks.


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#1039210 - 05/16/16 12:57 PM Re: A clutch pedal with an OEM feel! [Re: SickSpeedMonte]  
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Matt, the clutch pedal is dead even with the brake pedal in my car right now, but it will depend on the hydraulics and clutch used.

You can set the resting height wherever you want it, but that's not the best way to tune the setup. I tuned mine to put the "grab" point of the clutch at a comfortable spot and the resting position of the pedal happens to be even with the brake. You use the two pedals differently though, so even if they aren't exactly even, it doesn't feel weird.

Basically, you have to push the fork (or release bearing) some distance to release the pressure plate from the disc. To do that, you'll need a certain volume of fluid forced into the slave. That requires the same volume to be forced from the master. So the ratio of the squares of the diameters (i.e. the ratio of the cross-sectional areas) between the master and slave dictates how much stroke you will need at the master, and that determines how much pedal throw is necessary. Adjusting the resting height of the pedal changes the total master stroke that you get and therefore changes the amount of fluid sent to the slave over the full pedal stroke.

#1040815 - 06/27/16 12:04 PM Re: A clutch pedal with an OEM feel! [Re: SickSpeedMonte]  
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#1040839 - 06/28/16 01:07 AM Re: A clutch pedal with an OEM feel! [Re: SickSpeedMonte]  
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Congrats, it is a great part.



84 - Stock
85 - ZZ383, 6-speed
#1044540 - 10/20/16 12:33 PM Re: A clutch pedal with an OEM feel! [Re: SickSpeedMonte]  
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Question..
Are both the lt1 and ls masters divorced type?
And how does one install a N safety stitch ?
do the 3800 f body masters work?
Thanks..

#1045664 - 11/22/16 06:30 PM Re: A clutch pedal with an OEM feel! [Re: SickSpeedMonte]  
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By divorced, you mean with a remote reservoir?

Both masters are the same, externally at least (both with remote reservoirs).

The LT1 slave is external. The LS1 slave is a release bearing that goes on the input shaft.

A neutral safety switch will require modification of your stock pedal bracket to have a provision to mount the switch.

Not 100% sure about the V6 master, but it looks the same as the V8 from pictures on RockAuto. Same story with the 3rd gen F-body masters, they look the same. I've had a couple customers that were using 3rd gen masters, but I haven't heard if it all worked. I'm sure I would have if it didn't though.

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