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#1036825 - 03/25/16 03:37 PM Steering shaft  
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I need a steering shaft for my 86. Any recommendations?


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#1036837 - 03/25/16 07:33 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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#1036839 - 03/25/16 08:13 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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I have a jeep shaft if you need one.


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#1036912 - 03/27/16 06:59 AM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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Ken 87MCSS http://www.montecarloss.com/community/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showprofile&User=3647 does the Astro shafts and usually has a few ready to go.

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#1036914 - 03/27/16 11:27 AM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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I am completely clueless about a Jeep/Astro shaft swap.
Are they better than the stock shaft? Or is it the only available shaft out there?

I've never had to replace one on any vehicle and need a LOT of info.
Thanks in advance.


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#1036915 - 03/27/16 12:08 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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#1036917 - 03/27/16 12:26 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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Soooo, which should I go for, an Astro or Jeep?
What would be the difference?


1986 Black SS Notchback,Stage II Hyperchip,B&M Shift Kit,Keyless entry,Alarm,235/60/15 Cooper Cobras
#1036922 - 03/27/16 03:05 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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I might be the only one but i sort of like the stock steering shaft. I tend to cruise in the monte, i have a jeep in my gn and its clearly more functional.


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#1036935 - 03/27/16 10:54 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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Stock shafts have a rag joint and an ugly rubber seal that often cracks. Rag joints cause steering play, the Jeep shafts have U joints with less play. The Jeep shafts are also a bit more slender, important for header clearance.


86 MCSS Notchback coupe, LS3, 4L65E, QP 9", Eaton Truetrac, 4 wheel disc, column shift, Dakota Digital, silver with maroon bench interior

#1036956 - 03/28/16 10:28 AM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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Which one would give me stock steering performance?
I don't want THAT stiff "off road" steering.


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#1036963 - 03/28/16 01:15 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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David,you will not notice a stiff feeling with the Jeep shaft.
Guy


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#1036982 - 03/28/16 07:55 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: GuysMonteSS]  
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Originally Posted By: GuysMonteSS
David,you will not notice a stiff feeling with the Jeep shaft.
Guy

Double entendre?


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#1036986 - 03/28/16 09:46 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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No "off road" feeling from the jeep shaft. I'm sure a brand new rag joint shaft will be comparable to a jeep shaft. But as mentioned, the rag joint will crack and wear out faster than the u-joints on the jeep shaft. The stiff off road feeling you are referring to would be caused by the rest of the suspension and tires on an off road vehicle. The jeep shaft is just built to handle that type of environment/abuse.


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#1037011 - 03/29/16 11:55 AM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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Still no definitive answer.


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#1037012 - 03/29/16 12:44 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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So for a definitive answer... Either the Astro or the Jeep shaft is an upgrade with no downside whatsoever. Some like the Astro shaft to keep their car all GM, I have a Jeep shaft in my car...but I also have a Ford 9" out back. laugh

Like said above, all the Jeep or Astro Shaft does is delete the rag joint. It will not make the steering feel any stiffer and if your rag joint was in perfect shape, you would not notice any difference between it and the Jeep or Astro shaft.

Just pick whichever shaft (Jeep or Astro) you desire and bolt it on already, it isn't rocket science, just a very sensible upgrade.


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#1037028 - 03/29/16 04:45 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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Well,, I found an aftermarket stock replacement for $194.

If anyone has a Jeep or Astro for sake, PM me.
Looking to do this sooner than later.


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#1037032 - 03/29/16 07:15 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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David,
Many of us got our shafts from (but were definitely not shafted by) MC87SS. LOL! Only $70 shipped. See under "Parts For Sale / Rolling Chassis". Check out the pictures, too. Very helpful.

#1037036 - 03/29/16 08:10 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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I have both, one car with a Jeep shaft one with an Astro shaft from Ken. I had Jeep ones on both, didn't notice any real difference vs stock, changed one car to the Astro shaft to help a clearance issue as there was very minor rubbing on the headers with the Jeep shaft. As Lance said, just a logical upgrade to get rid of the rag joint, IMO. I have at least one stock joint/shaft laying around in ok shape if you or anyone is interested.


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#1037043 - 03/29/16 11:49 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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Again...?


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#1037045 - 03/30/16 12:13 AM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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http://www.montecarloss.com/community/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=953754&page=6

Or in the above comments, Aeroaddict said he has one available.


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#1037065 - 03/30/16 01:07 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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I talked to Dave last Friday, but just sold my last one yesterday, sorry..


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#1037135 - 03/31/16 04:39 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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I installed a Jeep shaft on my 83... Not a lot of difference. But, then the rag joint was pretty solid for being original.

Here is a link to my How To.

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#1037213 - 04/02/16 01:48 PM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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Another option is going with a Borgeson or Flaming River shaft, more pricey, but a high quality setup, stainless joints and a collapsible shaft. Installed the Borgeson years ago before the Jeep shaft was in vogue.

My AWD Astro with 240K has the u-joint shaft and can say it's still tight, although showing some corrosion in the joints.
Bob

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#1037872 - 04/17/16 08:05 AM Re: Steering shaft [Re: David]  
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Dunno if your still looking but, I have a spare I took out of an 84 monte that I was parting out. it's in nice shape.

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