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#1033910 - 01/03/16 08:11 PM I have a 350 chevy crate motor  
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10066036, stamped on block and front of head also has the #1M0222-8H04 and i know its a 4 bolt main...TargetMaster/Goodwrench crate engine, 2-piece rear seal, "Hecho en Mexico" Made in Mexico but i need to know what year it is i got parts for 1984 that work but as far as the oil pan dose not work it has the Left or Right hand dipstic mine Dipstick is on passenger side would any one have any suggestions

#1033911 - 01/03/16 08:44 PM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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Is the dipstick in the block of the crate engine or in the oil pan itself?


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#1033914 - 01/03/16 08:54 PM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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in the oil pan

#1033919 - 01/03/16 09:04 PM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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and This engine is drilled for both L.H. and R.H. dipstick mine Dipstick is on passenger side

#1033927 - 01/03/16 11:31 PM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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I'm not sure what you want to know about it exactly(it's an 85 and older sbc block) but here is a quick google search and what I found out:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120314202015AApjXrl

#1033931 - 01/04/16 12:53 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: rons87mcss]  
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i got a oil pan for a 1984 and the dipstick is on the right side and the left side is straight but my old pan has right and left dipstick but the left side has a tube a goes through the motor down to the pan its blocked and with the new pan it doesn't clear the block off tube that goes through the motor ]

#1033933 - 01/04/16 01:25 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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I'm still confused... lol... Which engine block do you want to use? What provision does it have for a dipstick?

Once we know that we just have to find a pan that fits that block.


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#1033937 - 01/04/16 02:48 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: SSLance]  
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It seems that the pan that came with that crate motor(the one with bulges for the dipstick on BOTH sides) is the only one that will work correctly. It seems you are wanting to mount an oil pan from an 84(?), that has only one specific side for the oil dipstick, on the crate motor but it probably wont work(?). I believe a person would have to use the pan that originally came on the crate motor. In that case, a person would just "plug" the dipstick provision/oil pan provision not being used. Here is a quote from a conversation that someone had online(google search) when trying to seal their oil pan while using the same exact crate motor you apparently have now.

QUOTE"Because you have a Mr. Goodwrench/Targetmaster GM block with provision for a dipstick on both sides of the engine. The block and pan have a bump out for the dipstick on both sides of the block and pan rails. The 555-210091 set shown on Jegs website is the correct type of gasket for this engine/oil pan. It mounts as shown, with both bulges opposite each other. The dipstick hole in the side of the block that is not used is sealed with a tapered plug.
Iíve never tried mounting a conventional pan with only a left or right hand dipstick on this block, but it doesnít seem likely a pan (or gasket) with one straight rail would seal against a block with a dipstick bulge on both sides. Iíve been wrong before though."END QUOTE



It seems you would need the original pan from that crate motor while plugging the provision for the dipstick that isn't being used(?)

#1033938 - 01/04/16 02:55 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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its in a 1984 monte carlo ss 350 crate engine i got the car with the engine in it i was told it was a GM crate motor ZZ350 but after doing some search and what I found out it was not a ZZ350 i did a search this is what i got 10066036
86-up or 1971-1985
350C 4-bolt Passenger stick 1-piece seal or a 2-piece the motor has a block off tube for the left dipstick on the motor with the pan that was on motor had the dipstick on the left side in the oil pan

#1033941 - 01/04/16 04:39 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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I'm sorry, I'm just not sure what you are trying to figure out think Everything about your crate engine has already been mentioned several times in this thread. Since your crate engine was manufactured to be a direct replacement engine for various models of cars/trucks, it seems it has the provisions on BOTH the block AND the oil pan to allow for either a passenger side OR driver side oil dipstick. Whatever side you want to install the dipstick on, then the other side needs to have the plug installed in either/or/both the block and/or oil pan. Since the motor has a 2 piece rear main seal, then it would be similar to(but not exactly as) the 85 & older generation 1 small block Chevy engine. It isn't an engine that would have came from the factory installed in a production vehicle so it seems it is it's own 'breed'.
I'm not trying to sound rude, but I seriously don't know exactly what you are trying to figure out.
Do you want to know what year the engine is? It would be considered an 85 & older engine if it has the 2 piece rear main seal(which it sounds like it does/should) BUT that doesn't mean it will share the same oil pan that came on an engine factory installed in a production vehicle that is a 1985 or older vehicle. It is it's own design to allow for either/or oil dipstick location.

Can't you just use the original(to the crate engine) oil pan(with both provisions for either/or side dipstick) and move the plug in the block to the opposite side of where you want the dipstick to be? Or don't you have the oil pan that came originally on the crate engine(with the provisions for the dipstick on BOTH sides)?

#1033945 - 01/04/16 01:05 PM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: rons87mcss]  
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Originally Posted By: rons87mcss
Or don't you have the oil pan that came originally on the crate engine(with the provisions for the dipstick on BOTH sides)?


I'm thinking that's it...but still not sure either. Sounds like the pan on it currently doesn't bump out on the driver side and there is a leak there?

Doesn't sound like it is a dip stick issue as much as a pan seal issue.


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#1033950 - 01/04/16 07:17 PM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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I got a headache reading this thread....... I know, not very helpful.....


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#1033959 - 01/05/16 12:38 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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i was going to put a picture of my engine block so everyone can see the engine block but it won't let me or i'm not doing it right

#1033961 - 01/05/16 01:00 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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You got the car with this engine already in it u stated, why don't you just use the oil pan that it had? Do you still have the oil pan that came on the crate motor?

I think some people are confused on what your actual question is. Are you asking what oil pan you can use?


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#1033962 - 01/05/16 01:03 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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#1033963 - 01/05/16 01:10 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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#1033964 - 01/05/16 01:11 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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i still have the original i was going with a new chrome oil pan i'm rebuilding the motor thats way i was going with a new chrome oil pan this is what my motor looks like http://www.montecarloss.com/community/avatars/17578.jpg

#1033966 - 01/05/16 01:19 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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As you know, that chrome one aint going to work. You're going to have to use the oil pan that has the 2 bumps. Clean it up real good, and it'll still look nice under there.


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#1033969 - 01/05/16 03:04 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: rons87mcss]  
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350 crate engine looking for a chrome oil pan that has the 2 bumps chrome http://carphotos.cardomain.com/images/0019/34/79/19134397.jpg

#1033973 - 01/05/16 05:52 AM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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Just did a search on Summit Racing. Nothing came up showing a chrome oil pan with provisions for both DS and PS dip sticks. Maybe you can take the pan that came with the motor and have it power coated faux chrome.

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#1033976 - 01/05/16 01:13 PM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: Fred SS]  
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thanks for all the info

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#1033980 - 01/05/16 01:49 PM Re: I have a 350 chevy crate motor [Re: ray6914]  
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Originally Posted By: ray6914
350 crate engine looking for a chrome oil pan that has the 2 bumps chrome http://carphotos.cardomain.com/images/0019/34/79/19134397.jpg


That would have been a great way to ask your question in your very first post! laugh

Good luck, I suggest painting or coating your current pan as well.


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