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#862319 - 03/23/11 11:26 PM Sway bar mounts  
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Im having trouble converting over to the 36mm hollow fbody sway bar. I bought new bushings (moog#k6459), they are the correct size for the sway bar and they fit into the sway bar mounts. But they are too fat to allow the mounts to touch the frame. Im talking a little over a half and inch of clearance before they really start to get distorted.

Have you guys had any issues?



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#862322 - 03/23/11 11:36 PM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: MonteC]  
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What are you using for the U brackets for around the bushings? The stock Monte or F-body brackets won't work.

When I did mine, I went to local parts store and bought a set of bushings/brackets. Works like a charm.

Also, since there wasn't much room for a socket as I kept stripping the head, I took my bolts to a Hdwe and picked up a set of allen head bolts so I could use a allen socket to bolt them in. Worked great as they had the same amt of contact to the brackets as the old bolts did.


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#862399 - 03/24/11 02:59 AM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: Monte88 LS]  
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Buy a set 36mm bushings from here;
http://www.top-downsolutions.com/greasable-front-sway-bushing-1983-camaro-fireb-p-43.html
Just order the bushings only, no brackets. IMO these are the best bushings available for the 36mm bar.

Use the stock SS 1 1/4" sway bar brackets, they are the best quality available today. Drill a 7/32" hole in the center of the bracket to align with the grease passage in the bushing. Get a self taping 1/4-28 NPT grease fitting and screw it into the hole. A 1/4-28 tap would be helpful to cut a few threads to start the grease fitting.
Bob

#862421 - 03/24/11 04:34 AM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: mmc427ss]  
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Top Down Solutions really is the Solution. They are what I used last year to install the WS6 hollow bar. Don't mess around and just get them.....your headache will go away. Here is what the brackets look like modified with zerk.


Here is what they look like in the Stock Bracket from the side. The TDS item is on the left.....the Firebird bushing is on the right...and it won't fit...lol


And this is what they look like installed.


And don't forget new end links and bushings. Install them so the ends of the bar are parallel to the road when tightened down.
Craig

#862725 - 03/25/11 12:48 PM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: Catalyze]  
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What brackets will work with the Moog 36mm bushings? I already bought the bushings before i posted this.



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#862758 - 03/25/11 04:14 PM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: mmc427ss]  
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Originally Posted By: mmc427ss
Buy a set 36mm bushings from here;
http://www.top-downsolutions.com/greasable-front-sway-bushing-1983-camaro-fireb-p-43.html
Just order the bushings only, no brackets. IMO these are the best bushings available for the 36mm bar.

Use the stock SS 1 1/4" sway bar brackets, they are the best quality available today. Drill a 7/32" hole in the center of the bracket to align with the grease passage in the bushing. Get a self taping 1/4-28 NPT grease fitting and screw it into the hole. A 1/4-28 tap would be helpful to cut a few threads to start the grease fitting.
Bob



I wonder which bushing they are using as they claim that it's an Energy Suspension part.

I wasn't able to find a universal or F-body fitment 36mm bushing, as all of the 36mm bushings are FoMoCo fitment.

I did find this link however:
http://www.oldspower.com/vb/showthread.php?t=39205


The link references using this bushing and bracket set:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ENS-9-5168G/

They appear to be greasible from this description on an Energy Suspension dealer's page:
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=9.5168


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#862768 - 03/25/11 06:09 PM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: SS Ninja]  
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I see the info on the TDS site says they are Energy. But when I purchased my bushing there a year ago he told me they were Guldstrand's bushings which TDS modifies, he drills the grease hole and machines in the channels for the grease to travel around the inner area of the bushing.
Bob

#902108 - 11/03/11 03:02 AM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: mmc427ss]  
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Bringing up an old post here, just ordered two sets of the bushings for my Montes tonight from TDS, doing the 36mm swaybar on both by spring (whats taken me so many years?) and noticed the bushing kits are on sale, if anyone is interested.


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#978907 - 07/26/13 08:27 PM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: PB86SS/87LS]  
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So today my new 36 mm sway bar got blasted and painted...and the bushings came in the mail from Top-down solutions. I freaked out a bit as I opened the bushings up as they have "34 mm" embossed in the side of them. Took them back and they fit over the bar just about perfectly...tight squeeze and they fit right tight on the bar. I then freaked out thinking I bought the wrong bar, so I grabbed the digital calipers and measured the bar...36 mm...

A quick phone call to Top-Down solved the question.

Apparently they no longer make the 36 mm bushings, so he takes the 34 mm bushing, puts it in a jig and machines it out to 36 mm while at the same time machining out the groove and the hole for the grease to travel through. These things are PERFECT for this swap, don't waste your time on anything else.

I should get the swap done tomorrow and will post pics once done.


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#978908 - 07/26/13 08:42 PM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: MonteC]  
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I'd have to look but think mine are the same way, or at least I recall a similar line of thought when receiving them. Great pieces.


-86'SS 383 CCC QJet- BRF 2004r-8.5" 3.42
-87'LS 350 MAF/SD TPI- CRF 2004r-7.5" 3.42
-81'Grand LeMans Safari Wagon 3.8 2bbl/200C/2.73
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#978910 - 07/26/13 08:47 PM Re: Sway bar mounts [Re: MonteC]  
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I should have a first hand review on how much difference the big bar makes in a performance setting after my autocross this Sunday... laugh


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