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#1041354 - 07/11/16 08:39 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: GuysMonteSS]  
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Barney's lifting of the inside rear tire on hard corners is VERY hard on Diffs...I believe that is the cause of the failures.

Yes that must be why,mine doesn't get driven like that hence the longevity.

Limited slip additive will help your cause a bunch. Put 8 oz in and then go out to a parking lot and do slow figure 8s until it goes away.

It get the additive every tine I change the oil but I never tried the figure 8's.


Guy


The figure 8s will work , slow and load the motor every once and awhile in the tight of the corner to burn the clutch pack jest a touch , but remember what you really doing when you do that is wearing in/out the posi unit ... the chatter you get now is because both tires are fighting to travel the same distance ...

#1041358 - 07/11/16 08:59 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: FrankOC]  
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Originally Posted By: FrankOC
Of course!


This is a HUGE out of the box step for me, I'm still not used to the idea... laugh



I did insist they are powder coated clear (both the inners and the hoops) to aid in maintenance... wink


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#1041361 - 07/11/16 09:57 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Those look nice and lite ...

#1041364 - 07/11/16 10:43 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Originally Posted By: SSLance



^^ Umm.. Sexy!

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I did insist they are powder coated clear (both the inners and the hoops) to aid in maintenance... wink

^^ even sexier.
I wish I knew how much work billet wheels were before I ordered mine...

#1041366 - 07/11/16 10:52 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Nice rims ! What brand ?

#1041368 - 07/12/16 12:13 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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DS3's 18 x 9 1/2", sweet. Can you smell rubber in the shop yet?

Ya know, 13" would fit nicely. Did I ever tell you the FIRST thing I did to the SS was put bigger brakes up front, that was 17 years ago.
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#1041379 - 07/12/16 12:26 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: mmc427ss]  
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Thanks everyone, I'm stoked and a bit scared at the same time. Can't wait to join the sticky tire club though for sure.


Originally Posted By: 84 ZZ4
I wish I knew how much work billet wheels were before I ordered mine...


They say the premium forged wheels are better, something about the forging process and tightening of the pores of the metal makes them easier to clean. I didn't care, the way I abuse mine...they were getting clear coated regardless.



Originally Posted By: mikester
Nice rims ! What brand ?


They are Forgeline DS3s.



Originally Posted By: mmc427ss
DS3's 18 x 9 1/2", sweet. Can you smell rubber in the shop yet?

Ya know, 13" would fit nicely. Did I ever tell you the FIRST thing I did to the SS was put bigger brakes up front, that was 17 years ago.
Bob



Rubber will be delivered tomorrow...

And stay tuned on the brake front... wink


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#1041380 - 07/12/16 12:42 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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My first choice was the FF3



The way the wheel mount surface on it is designed, it will not work with my current front hubs though. I wanted to stay with some sort of 5 spoke design and Forgeline helped me pick out the DS3s instead.


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#1041381 - 07/12/16 01:20 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Lance - we are impatient to see all the goodies... Our only solace is knowing that you are more anxious than we are...
what's the offset on the wheels?

#1041384 - 07/12/16 02:34 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: AkronAero]  
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Originally Posted By: AkronAero
Lance - we are impatient to see all the goodies... Our only solace is knowing that you are more anxious than we are...
what's the offset on the wheels?



The good thing is I'm very busy with a moving project right now so even if they were here I wouldn't have time to mess with them right now. They are basically clones of my current rims only in 18" diameter. 18x9.5 with 5.0" backspace. Technically they are ordered as 18x6 inners and 18x3 outers with blind titanium bolts holding the inner and outer to the center piece.


I did get this done this morning. That's the beauty of a 9" and a lift...only 45 minutes to get the center section out.



This is all the tools it takes...



I only wish I wasn't SO GOOD at taking this thing out... Hopefully this is the last time for a while.



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#1041385 - 07/12/16 03:00 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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success is its own form of punishment, it just encourages you to go further, and further, and...
tire pics/descriptions when they arrive tomorrow, please!
thanks as always
Gordon

#1041395 - 07/13/16 03:23 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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I think Lance had a Trac-Loc diff in his car. The design isn't the best and from what I've read the discs wear pretty quick under hard use and loose their grip. Just installed new Spicer Trac Loc in my son's Dana 44 front axle. The amount of wear it will see is minimal being the front axle is disengaged 98% of the time.

Looking forward to seeing how the manners of your back half of the car changes. More videos.
Bob

#1041404 - 07/13/16 11:56 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Lance,

Did you see the memo about Rival S tires no longer being a valid tire for Solo Nationals?


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#1041405 - 07/13/16 12:22 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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I have a Detroit Locker. It does the job but I can feel it engage and disengage. Especially exiting a curve while accelerating (slight Jerking motion). Not good when you are doing 90 around a curve. Looking to replace it this fall.
Presently, Eaton Detroit Locker #187s160a

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#1041408 - 07/13/16 01:14 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Why decelerate when exiting a curve? laugh I'm always in the power when exiting a curve. wink

I'll let you know how the 40# spring works in mine, supposedly it makes a soft locker much more street friendly.


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#1041409 - 07/13/16 01:16 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: Travis Jones]  
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Originally Posted By: thepezking639
Lance,

Did you see the memo about Rival S tires no longer being a valid tire for Solo Nationals?


Yeah, I think some people made a much larger deal about it than is necessary though. It's only the new version that will not be legal (for 2016 only) and the new version is only in certain sizes and the production runs of the new version haven't even started yet. If you don't have your tires for Nationals by now, you are probably screwed anyway...


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#1041414 - 07/13/16 09:33 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Originally Posted By: SSLance

I did get this done this morning. That's the beauty of a 9" and a lift...only 45 minutes to get the center section out.







Just think if you had floaters!!


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#1041415 - 07/13/16 09:57 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Eh, so far my A20 style bearings have been holding up just fine.

I want to share a story about picking the right garage\shop. We have a garage in KC that a lot of us in the racing community use for things out of our realm of expertise. They are old school racers running an up to date mechanics shop with a lot of nice high end newer equipment. I took my third member and new locker to them yesterday to have them swap the lighter springs in the locker then assemble in my third member and set the gears up.

When picking it up today, they described what they found when they opened the brand new in box diff up. I guess inside there are two conical springs and two pucks on each side of the moving part of the locker, these pucks have one side with notches in it for the springs to index into and the other side has oil groves cut into it. When they took it apart, one of the pucks was installed backward, with the oil grooves facing the spring and the spring notches facing the other puck. they hemmed and hawed with each other about what to do, put it back together as they found it, or fix it. Finally they researched on the web until they found an explodable parts diagram of the Eaton Locker and they verified the correct way the pucks go...and put it back together properly this time.

They also noticed that the gear flange was a bit thinner than my old diff and the ring gear bolts were bottoming out right before they tightened up. After careful measuring they ordered some new shorter ring gear bolts as well.

I'm pretty sure the local mechanic down the street would not have gone too those lengths when setting this up...and I would have paid for it later by taking the diff out once again.

Thanks Dave and Greg at Santa Fe Garage...you rock!!!


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#1041426 - 07/14/16 02:59 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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I've read about some of the problems since Eaton has gone south of the border. Toms Diff actually has a blueprint service available, not free, to disassemble an Eaton posi and insure it's right, and clean. The Eaton Posi I just removed is 15 years old and USA. The brand new True Trac I just installed is NOS, about 10 years old, USA.

Even though you're pretty quick about pulling that pumpkin I'm hoping that will be the last time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob

#1041427 - 07/14/16 03:16 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Originally Posted By: SSLance
Why decelerate when exiting a curve? laugh I'm always in the power when exiting a curve. wink

I'll let you know how the 40# spring works in mine, supposedly it makes a soft locker much more street friendly.


Meant accelerating. LOL I'll correct that now.

#1041437 - 07/14/16 11:51 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Bob, the Eaton came with a sticker on it "Made in Poland"... Thought that was interesting.

Ben, I'm aware of that concern but Ramey says it doesn't take much to get used to it. What I hope is it'll just be consistent, if it'll lock up the exact same way and time every time...I'm certain I'll be able to get used to it.

BTW... #gamechanged



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#1041441 - 07/14/16 02:40 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Big meats, looks like 4 back tires.


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#1041444 - 07/14/16 03:48 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Anyone ever roll the fenders on a G-body?

Old Falkens on left, new 'Stones on right.





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#1041445 - 07/14/16 03:49 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Diameter almost exactly the same which is good...



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#1041446 - 07/14/16 03:52 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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I think they'll be fine...probably rub the frame and sway bar up front a bit more under full lock is all.


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