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#1037280 - 04/04/16 12:09 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Originally Posted By: SSLance
So I set out to do some parking lot testing of all the new stuff. This car is now OMG fun on corner exit!! It had me laughing out loud to myself!! That's what it's all about right?


That's the best feeling in the world isn't it? That feelnig of accomplishment. Recently fixing the chassis on my truck and the steering slop on my SS gave me that feeling.

#1037385 - 04/07/16 01:04 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Lance,

Any chance for some undercarriage video after that UMI brace? I'm looking into getting one as well.

I'd love to buy direct from UMI but they are considerably more expensive than Summit.


86 SS 6.0L LQ4, TBSS GEN IV intake, 92mm TB, 30lb injectors, Summit Stage 3 NA Cam, Stainless long tube headers, Stainless 3in exhaust, Microsquirt ECU, FABbot AR5 5-speed, Torsen LSD, QA1 Lvl 3 Suspension Kit, UMI Front & Rear Braces. Check out my build blog on Summit Racing's OnAll Cylinders https://www.onallcylinders.com/author/travis-jones/
#1037386 - 04/07/16 01:13 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Hmm, UMI and Summit should be the same price...

#1037387 - 04/07/16 01:14 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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If my GoPro battery last thru the rest of my testing on Saturday that's on my list...


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#1037388 - 04/07/16 01:16 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: ramey36]  
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Originally Posted By: ramey36
Hmm, UMI and Summit should be the same price...


http://umiperformance.com/catalog/index....products_id=999

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/upi-3053-b

229.99 at UMI, 205.97 at Summit.

FYI...

and BTW just bought one of your rear shock braces, looks to be a great piece. I went with QA1 for the rest of kit as they had a 4 corner coilover option as a kit. Very Happy with both of your products!


86 SS 6.0L LQ4, TBSS GEN IV intake, 92mm TB, 30lb injectors, Summit Stage 3 NA Cam, Stainless long tube headers, Stainless 3in exhaust, Microsquirt ECU, FABbot AR5 5-speed, Torsen LSD, QA1 Lvl 3 Suspension Kit, UMI Front & Rear Braces. Check out my build blog on Summit Racing's OnAll Cylinders https://www.onallcylinders.com/author/travis-jones/
#1037390 - 04/07/16 01:20 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Cool, glad you like the stuff!

It wont be long until Jeg's or someone catches it so I'd order asap!

#1037582 - 04/11/16 12:41 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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My friends that autocross a lot know that there are a lot of factors that go into posting a fast time on course. Once you get past basic car setup and have some experience with driving lines and car control, it really comes down to just finding a way to get those last few tenths you can get out of the driver and the car. Those few tenths can sometimes mean the difference between a win and second place. Sometimes it’s a course design that fits your particular driving style or one that benefits your car setup, sometimes it’s a good night’s sleep the night before, and sometimes you can’t find your rear end with both hands while out on course. I’ve had plenty of those types of days the past year or so, changes to my car requiring changes to my driving style and trying to tie it all together led to a frustrating year in finishing results last year.

Those results carried forward to our Test n Tune last Saturday, I was trying to get used to some new suspension parts and some new power under the hood while in a non-points, lots of runs type of scenario on a course that should have been big car friendly…and I was a few tenths off all day. It seemed like nothing I tried worked any better than before, just the same old same old from last year. Then sometime Saturday night I had an idea, something I could try with my shock settings that was different than anything I had tried before. The knowledge I gained from Ron Suttons suspension workshop last fall gave me an idea and I texted Ron Sunday morning with my idea and asked his thoughts. He replied right back with a “sure, give it a shot”.

I had 4 shots Sunday at a track I’d never seen before so I figured I’d try the new settings for a run or two and if it wasn’t working I’d go back to my basic set up. I went halfway with my new shock strategy on run 1 and I liked it, it seemed to help the issue I was having and I put down a pretty good time. So I went the same amount again on my second run and picked up over a second. This is where I was trying to go with my point though… watching my videos back Sunday night, I realized it wasn’t the shock settings that gained me that second, it was the driver nailing two key elements on the course. On my subsequent runs 3 and 4 after, I blew both of those elements and never got close to that time again. That’s how fickle autocross can be at this level. Those drivers that are always on the top of the charts no matter what car they are driving, they are the ones that nail all of those elements continually, and it is a LOT harder than it looks.

That second run netted me a class win for the first time in over a year by 2/10s of a second on a 43 second course. I could not have done that without my fantastic ‪#‎Ridetech‬ shocks, ‪#‎RonSuttonRaceTechnology‬ suspension tune, the new ‪#‎UMIPerformance‬ rear sway bar, and the Yancy Shepard power under the hood, but in reality it came down to the driver and car fitting the course, the weather on my side, and maybe it was just my day. Regardless it felt great to get a win again…finally!

We had 142 drivers post times yesterday, 10 were in CAMC cars, 6 in Junior Karts, and competition was fierce in many of the other classes. It made me happy to see all of the active participation continuing to grow in this sport.

Here's a video of all 4 runs in order...

https://youtu.be/RH0HA5Pcq08

See if you can figure out which two elements are the two that made all the difference. laugh


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#1037623 - 04/12/16 02:18 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Couple of runs from Saturday's test n Tune course, few more chances to feel out the new horsepower on this course. Be sure to pay attention at the end of the second run. laugh

http://youtu.be/bX_kGsAKDWQ


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#1037719 - 04/14/16 02:25 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Great news Lamce,

For sure with your investments in money, training and all the consulting that has came your way. I would expect nothing less in terms of your progress. You have major time into this project which is good to see it work too your satisfaction.

Regards,
Ron.


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#1037721 - 04/14/16 02:57 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Thanks Ron, what I like is quite a few of the cars I beat last Sunday, probably still have loans against them worth more money than I have into my whole car. laugh

Next event is a WRL Momentum Performance Driving school at Raceway Park of the Midlands April 23-24. I'm skipping the local SCCA autocross this Sunday, need to save my stuff.


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#1037754 - 04/15/16 01:32 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Hey Lance,

I'm quiet sure you have more than enough into Barney to exceed many peoples budget. Also the sporting events, travel costs and training are investments. But you enjoy the sport and that in itself should be well worth the out of pocket.

As fare as guys buying a new car on a bank note and racing it makes me wonder why? It's not paid for and you're possibly destroying it....Makes no sense. I sold three old cars of mine to pay for the new scat pack I bought. Next year I will order my new ZL1 Camaro and sit on all three. I won't owe a dim on any of my stuff. The last thing I would want to do is feel I have to impress someone and risk wrecking one of them.



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#1038286 - 04/24/16 12:46 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: 1 Slow SS]  
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Spent the day yesterday at Raceway Park of the Midlands​ making laps in Barney at the Momentum Performance Driving Academy​ put on by the WRL. Had a blast, learned a ton...really like this track. The horsepower upgrades over the winter were very well utilized today for sure.

This video is of my last session of the day, starts off with a 75% warmup lap then 4 laps at speed, the second to the last lap was my fastest of the day...in the heat of the day too. I learned some driving line tricks while following Rodney Giebel​ and Mike Norman and then Ron Sutton​ helped out with some tuning tips to make it all come together.

The video then gets a little exciting about the 9:50 mark...at the end of the long straight when the brakes went away. I called it a day right as I made the corner... laugh

We are supposed to have another full day today, given that it's raining right now...and I don't really feel like bleeding my brakes in the,I'm not sure if I'll get back out on the track today or not. Either way, it's been a great weekend already...thanks to Joey Todd​ and the rest of the WRL crew for debuting this new venture here and letting us come along.


https://youtu.be/CxUI7fgZ3ro


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#1038323 - 04/25/16 01:45 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Okay so, a lot of you won't be too interested in this video, but some might. This was my first session Sunday morning in the wet. The first 4 minutes or so show what I have to do each time to get belted into the car with a HANS device, you can skip forward if you aren't interested in that. I just thought I'd leave it in just to show what we go through, I can't reach the camera once belted in so I start the camera before.

The first lap on track is a warm up lap, I am shadowing my friend Rodney in the yellow Miata to see if I can learn anything about racing in the wet from a veteran. You'll see right away how easily the car steps out and as I'm learning when and where i can push things and when I just have to be patient.

https://youtu.be/B7ir3ZjJpCs

I had a blast these two sessions, apparently I love racing in the rain. laugh It takes so much away from the car and setup and puts it right in the driver's hands. It's fun for me to try to figure out ways to find grip where there isn't any. I wasn't pushing for speed on any of the straights in these sessions, mainly just trying to learn how to corner.

Anyway, hope you enjoy...I sure did.


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#1038329 - 04/25/16 05:26 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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This was the last session I ran on Sunday. We started about 10:30 am and it was still about half damp on track. I used the things I learned in the wet to really start clicking off nice laps as I gained confidence that it would stick.

Really enjoyed the whole weekend, can't wait to do it again.

https://youtu.be/Ujh5uWIY3tE


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#1038363 - 04/26/16 06:05 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Haven't been ignoring you, just away from home over the weekend.

Didn't watch all the videos in their entirety, yet. Sure looks like a lot of fun, new found hp makes the straights shorter.
Bob

#1038378 - 04/26/16 05:05 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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No problems Bob, I'll know you'll get to them when you get time.

Harry's lap timer shows 1.08 Gs on both left and right turns at around 58 mph, top speed 116 MPH on my fastest lap. 0.47 Gs on braking typically...

That app is pretty cool if anyone wants to log their laps on tack days.


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#1038380 - 04/26/16 05:59 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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0.54 Gs in the greasy wet at around 47 mph.

Not too shabby for a street car on almost wore out tires.


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#1039545 - 05/23/16 12:19 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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So, I participated in the Midwest MuscleCar Challenge last weekend for the first time...man what a great event! I'll do a proper write up sometime later, but here's a couple of videos of some of the fun we had!

Snuck into the back side of the Advanced group for a few laps with my instructor Kenny...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVDperz7nT8

And my best and worse autocross runs on Saturday...

https://youtu.be/wOBZuJBTr5w

The car did great and the driver did okay...main thing is I brought it home in one piece.

Learned a ton, met a bunch of internet friends in person for the first time and just flat out had a blast...


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#1039561 - 05/23/16 08:03 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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looks like fun!

what is that stuck to the windshield?

#1039571 - 05/23/16 10:32 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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It's a ram mount holding my cell phone which is running Harry's Lap timer.


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#1039572 - 05/23/16 10:37 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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#1039574 - 05/23/16 10:43 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Awesome picture Lance !!!
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#1039580 - 05/24/16 12:42 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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I had so much fun hanging out with Ramey and the rest of the UMI crew this weekend, good bunch a folks there for sure.









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#1039581 - 05/24/16 12:45 AM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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Great weekend for us as well. Can't wait to do it again. It was fun to have fast G-bodies!

#1039690 - 05/26/16 10:59 PM Re: SSLance's Build thread [Re: SSLance]  
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