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#662837 - 03/22/09 11:56 PM Windshield Trim  
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I lost the front windshield trim (the top part only). Can I use any g-body trim? Will it match with the side trim? I know some come in chrome instead of black... I can paint it to match the rest of the trim.



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#662840 - 03/23/09 12:03 AM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: 1984Monte]  
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I beleive all the 78-88 G-body window trim is the same.


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#662873 - 03/23/09 01:08 AM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: Aeroaddict]  
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Originally Posted By: Aeroaddict
I beleive all the 78-88 G-body window trim is the same.
if not, 82-88 monte carlo trim definitely is


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#663094 - 03/23/09 03:47 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: Gruvin]  
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Thanks guys! Greg is shipping one for me. Nobody in town has one... I knew someone on here would. clap



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#663098 - 03/23/09 03:55 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: 1984Monte]  
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Look into replacing the factory plastic trim clips w/ some metal clips as well. The factory plastic clips dry rot and break real easy, may be why you lost the trim in the first place?

#663101 - 03/23/09 04:06 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: JAMZ87SS]  
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I hate to hi-jack the post... but where did you get your metal clips from? The 84 is in dire need of some replacement clips. TIA


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#663102 - 03/23/09 04:09 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: mannblk]  
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NOOOO! don't use the metal clips, they willcut the paint and let rust start in there! Replace with plastic!


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#663108 - 03/23/09 04:19 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: mannblk]  
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I just matched up my old clip by height and tab location . I have a so many boxes of clips I can't really say what application I used smile . You could either take an old plastic clip to the parts store and match them up to a metal one, or take one into a local glass shop and they should be able to match it up to a metal clip (w/ the same height )as I did. It is well worth the hassle, because as most of us know those plastic clips are useless after a couple of years in the elements smile. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
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#663110 - 03/23/09 04:22 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: Gruvin]  
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Originally Posted By: Gruvin84SS
NOOOO! don't use the metal clips, they willcut the paint and let rust start in there! Replace with plastic!


LOL, fords and other manufacters (including GM) used metal clips for many ,many years w/out an issue?

#663115 - 03/23/09 04:29 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: JAMZ87SS]  
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They don't care, as long as the car lasts past warranty period(3-5 years) I paid extra to have all the windows taken out and all those areas cleaned, prepped, resealed, and repainted to ensure that no rust would get in there. This is not an area for an amateur to fix once they rust out. Of course, I am just giving my opinion on the subject.


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#663121 - 03/23/09 04:41 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: Gruvin]  
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It's all good. I'm just sharing mine as well. smile 9/10 times a windshield pinchweld is rusted due to an improper replacement. My opinion is based on the fact that I am a NGA certified master technician who also is a shop owner and been slinging glass for longer than I care to admit frown . I can definately see what your saying Gruvin, as scratching and marring the paint in the pinchweld can cause a boatload of problems in the long run. If care is taken and the metal clips are installed properly they will outlast the plastic clips , and rust will never be an issue.
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#663125 - 03/23/09 04:50 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: Phoenix]  
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Originally Posted By: Phoenix
Originally Posted By: Gruvin84SS
NOOOO! don't use the metal clips, they willcut the paint and let rust start in there! Replace with plastic!

I agree, but not because of the rust issue. The metal clips pop on straight down. The plastic ones slide in and lock in place. The windshield guy talked me into using the metal ones because the plastic ones break over time, but I found out later that the plastic ones stay on much much better. The metal ones can easily pop off the studs...especially if you get your car repainted and the studs are a little thicker.

I never thought about rust, but Gruvin is probably right about that. Having the studs rust would super suck, and those metal clips do cut in like he was saying.



Metal clip that slides on the post just like the cheap plastic clip, and does not cut into the paint. but hey, WTF do I know?

#663127 - 03/23/09 04:53 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: JAMZ87SS]  
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Jamie, I have seen some of the goofs that SOME shops hire... they want it done fast and don't take time which leads to mistakes like the improper replacement and nicks in the paint. Alas, not everyone in a profession lives up to the standards of the profession(I have seen it in my profession too).

I haven't seen a metal clip like that before, the ones I was offered looked different, like these:


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#663131 - 03/23/09 05:04 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: Gruvin]  
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Originally Posted By: Gruvin84SS
Jamie, I have seen some of the goofs that SOME shops hire... they want it done fast and don't take time which leads to mistakes like the improper replacement and nicks in the paint. Alas, not everyone in a profession lives up to the standards of the profession(I have seen it in my profession too).

I haven't seen a metal clip like that before, the ones I was offered looked different


Very true. SAD, but true. I'm not trying to argue w/ anyone smile Just basing my info on my knowledge/experience in my profession, not "something I heard, or read, or some guy told me" smile . None of these statements are made in anger in anyway, shape or form. I'm getting off my soap box now smile Rant OVER LOL
Jamie

*edit... right they can marr the paint when they are forced down over the trim mounting pin. And they can also pull off the stud if the wrong clip is used.

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#663134 - 03/23/09 05:06 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: JAMZ87SS]  
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Jamie, I think we all want the best for our cars. I am sure it is a big reason you put so much into do it right.


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#663137 - 03/23/09 05:10 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: Gruvin]  
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Originally Posted By: Gruvin84SS
I haven't seen a metal clip like that before, the ones I was offered looked different, like these:


Ditto...and I didn't notice the one he posted a pic of until now.
Originally Posted By: JAMZ87SS
Metal clip that slides on the post just like the cheap plastic clip, and does not cut into the paint. but hey, WTF do I know?

The plastic ones like that are too thick to fit in a couple of spots on mine. I'm going to send you a PM to try and get some from you. I think this was just a misunderstanding on what metal clips were being recommended. Those would be better without a doubt.


#663139 - 03/23/09 05:11 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: Gruvin]  
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Me , nah my junk is primer smile I'm that twisted guy who wants his car to look like a slow turd ...lol, but I don't want rust, and I treat my customers the way I would treat a guest in home and their cars as if they were my own.
(I'm really sorry we stole your post mark )

#663146 - 03/23/09 05:18 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: JAMZ87SS]  
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Originally Posted By: JAMZ87SS
(I'm really sorry we stole your post mark )
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#663179 - 03/23/09 07:08 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: Gruvin]  
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lol... its ok guys. After you guys mention the clips can be broken or crack. I did a close inspection of them and it looks like three of them are broken/crack. I have the plastic clips and I don't think they never been replaced before. So it looks like I am going to replace them too. I would never thought about the clips... I was just going to replace the trim and be done with it. I would have hate to loose another one. lol Thanks guys!



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#663199 - 03/23/09 07:42 PM Re: Windshield Trim [Re: 1984Monte]  
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Another tip : In a pinch if you can't replace the clips, or find new ones. Or even just for a safety measure if you use the plastic clips. Put a dab of w/shield urethane adhesive on each clip and then install the molding. The urethane will help hold the molding in place and is usually stronger than just the clip. You can purchase 3m w/shield urethane in a gunable caulk tube from most parts houses, while not as good as what most pros use(as far as cure times go), it will definately do the job.
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Originally Posted By: Gruvin84SS
Originally Posted By: Aeroaddict
I beleive all the 78-88 G-body window trim is the same.
if not, 82-88 monte carlo trim definitely is


MC trim, 1978-88 IS the same...I believe. If not, its darn close. When my '79 MC Landau lost its top windshield trim a few years ago (same piece I think as yours, Mark) Randy (from philly) brought me some parts from his former 4th gen MC LS ... and it worked perfectly! smile



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i would use plastic clips also. just mho


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