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#508701 - 12/03/07 02:15 AM saggy door  
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how do you fix a saggy door?
i was told i need new pins and bushings but how do you get the old pins out?
i tried hitting them out with a screw driver and hammer, and all i did was chip my paint so whats the best way to do it?

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#508709 - 12/03/07 02:30 AM Re: saggy door [Re: monsterjam5000]  
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Question: What are the signs that your door is sagging?


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#508716 - 12/03/07 02:40 AM Re: saggy door [Re: plz84monte]  
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Personally I replaced the hinge on my car. driver's upper.


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#508717 - 12/03/07 02:40 AM Re: saggy door [Re: plz84monte]  
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new pins and bushings is what you need. if you cant hammer then out cut them do one at a time .


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#508720 - 12/03/07 02:41 AM Re: saggy door [Re: tonys57chevy]  
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gm still has hings but they are not cheap


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#508741 - 12/03/07 03:08 AM Re: saggy door [Re: tonys57chevy]  
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no i only need busing and pins i know this because i have to pick up on the door just to close it.

how would i go about cutting them that seems like it would be harder that hammering them out?

#508751 - 12/03/07 03:27 AM Re: saggy door [Re: monsterjam5000]  
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You should be able to hammer them out from the bottom side of the hinge. You might need to have someone or something support the door and take some of the weight off of the hinge also. Try and put some penetrating oil on it and let is set for a while. As stated above do one pin at a time. I have not had to cut them out, but if so, with a hacksaw blade and lots of time. Put some tape around the blade so you have a handle. I would cut it in the middle of the pin and then remove it from there.


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#508757 - 12/03/07 03:44 AM Re: saggy door [Re: cj84ss]  
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ya the cutting seems like it would be harder that pounding them out.
i just did not know if there was a trick or a tool, because i pounded on mine and it did not move. then the screw drive hid the top of the fender by teh door and chiped my paint so i stop tring.

#508767 - 12/03/07 04:05 AM Re: saggy door [Re: monsterjam5000]  
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i used a cutoff wheel it was 123 and out


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#508780 - 12/03/07 04:47 AM Re: saggy door [Re: tonys57chevy]  
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#508787 - 12/03/07 04:59 AM Re: saggy door [Re: Big3]  
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look at the hinge, if it is egged around the pin and the bushing is really worn then you will need more than a new bushing and pin... As said before, you have to support the door when doing this. I had mine replaced when I had my 87 repainted so that I don't have all the issues that come with saggy doors(broken sheet metal where the striker bolt is, cracked door frame, cracked welds where the skin meets the frame under the upper black trim, cracking along the skin up by the mirror )


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#508882 - 12/03/07 01:21 PM Re: saggy door [Re: Gruvin]  
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monsterjam5000 you have it now step by step sent to you


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#508897 - 12/03/07 02:28 PM Re: saggy door [Re: tonys57chevy]  
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My driver's side door is sagging. When I removed the pin, it didn't appear to have any bushings and the replacement bushings I bought from the chevy dealer are too large to go in the hole. I'm confused. Also, their is no instruction as to what size hole to bore to use the new bushings.

Has anyone run into this problem?

I did a search and found the answer to my problem. The bushings I have are oversize according to the following post.

http://www.montecarloss.com/community/ub...true#Post335901

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#508901 - 12/03/07 03:20 PM Re: saggy door [Re: Roadie]  
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Try "PB Blaster" to soak them first,(get it at most parts houses, Walmart etc) a little light tapping every now and then helps it penetrate better. It's the closest thing to magic for rusted parts I've ever seen or tried.

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#508937 - 12/03/07 05:27 PM Re: saggy door [Re: Carl]  
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Roadie i e maild the answer to your question


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#509039 - 12/03/07 11:10 PM Re: saggy door [Re: tonys57chevy]  
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I had to buy a door spring compressor for the doors on my 88. I have not had a chance to replace them yet but I bought a used pair of hinges on eBay and I am going to put the bushings and pins in those and replace the older hinges on my car because it is in such a tight area that this seemed like an easier option. I called a local repair shop and they wanted 100 dollars a door to replace them. I would rather remove the fenders and stuff to replace mine,lol.


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#509133 - 12/04/07 03:21 AM Re: saggy door [Re: SSluv]  
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my drivers side door was sagging a bit...i replaced my top pin if i recall correctly..the top pin was cheap..maybe $10-$20...it helped alot..my passanger door was fine...the door closes pretty smoothly but id still like to replace the bottom hinge just to get her to open and close like new...but the bottom hinge brand new from napa, pepboys were special order from GM..about $120 per door...try replacing the top pin first and see how she does..i think there was an adjustment you can make to on the other side of the door..that adjustment helps a bit but make sure you replace the pin first..it helps to have a buddy over helping you hold the door up while you slide the new pin in..good luck


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#509193 - 12/04/07 09:55 AM Re: saggy door [Re: monte87LSsssssssss]  
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did both of mine ,and now both door close with very little effort ,its sooooo nice

#509275 - 12/04/07 05:04 PM Re: saggy door [Re: John Milner]  
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The reason why it won't come out just smaking them with a hammer is because there is a little piece on top of the pin the is flat and sticks out to hold the pin in place. You have to cut that piece off and the pin will tap right out. I did the same thing with chipping my paint too. I forgot all about the little flap on the pin and beat away at it chipping my fender and door. Iwas so dang amd i could scream. Now i am glad that my body shop gave me a quart of reduced paint to use for touch up reasons.


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#509412 - 12/05/07 01:03 AM Re: saggy door [Re: 406monte]  
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ya i tried again and chiped the paint again then i seen teh flat spots on the top.

what did you use and how did you cut the top of the bolt off.

#509680 - 12/05/07 09:26 PM Re: saggy door [Re: monsterjam5000]  
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cut the top?..i dont remember cutting the top of mine.i just remember banging the pin out from the bottom with a hammer and sliding the new pin in..my fender may have been off though when I did it..maybe that changes things a bit.who knows


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#509767 - 12/06/07 02:05 AM Re: saggy door [Re: monte87LSsssssssss]  
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yea I just trimmed the tabs off the bottom

#510120 - 12/07/07 05:11 AM Re: saggy door [Re: John Milner]  
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i had to cut the top of to get the pin out.
i did not have the tool to remove the spring so i could not do the bottom busching i did the top one and the door closes great now.

#510153 - 12/07/07 10:06 AM Re: saggy door [Re: monsterjam5000]  
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I am going to try to remove my hinges tomorrow and replace them with rebuilt hinges. Do I need to remove the fenders to get to the nuts on the back of the hinges or are they tack welded in to keep them from turning when I take the hinges out, Thanks


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#510350 - 12/08/07 01:19 AM Re: saggy door [Re: SSluv]  
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No need to remove the fenders. The hinges have the a fastener like the door striker has. A plate with threaded holes for the bolts that can be adjusted, to adjust the door up/down or in/out. I have to get some upper hinges for the Monte and my GP. The top hinge pin elongated the hole and the door drops.



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