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#327993 - 06/13/05 11:19 AM Hotckis springs installed  
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I just had my Hotchkis front springs installed the other day...car sits higher than it did with the original worn out springs. I searched the past threads and my ride height is right within specs, front is 27 inches and rear 28 inches. Should I expect this to lower once the springs settle?

The ride quality is great, very smooth over bumps and railroad tracks. I love the handling, just would've liked to be about one inch lower to close the gap between the fender and front tire. I'm running 245/45/17 up front and may go up to 50-series next time I get new tires just to fill the opening.

The rear looks very low and will bottom out with people in the back seat. I just ordered some Air Bags from Jegs to fill up when I'm hauling friends around. Other than that, KYB's and Hotchkis are a great combo.



'85 SS ZZ383, Extreme Automatics 2004r, 8.5 rear w/3.73 & Z06 brakes, Harwood hood, & Torque Thrust II 17's.
#327994 - 06/13/05 11:33 AM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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They will settle, but not very much. Just make sure they're seated properly. They have to be right up in the spring pocket in the top, and the bottom end of the spring should tuck in between the two drain holes on the lower A-arm.


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'88 SS - BudgetTourer - ZZ4-cammed 355 TPI, serpentine belt conversion, World Class 5-speed, 17" wheels, 12" front discs, Eibachs/Bilsteins, 1LE lower A-arms, tall lower balljoints, 34mm front swaybar, 3/4" straight rear bar, Celebrity headlights, and more. Sold on 2/28/11.
#327995 - 06/13/05 12:49 PM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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Do you know if the words HOTCHKIS should be right side up or upside down on the front springs? I looked and mine are not upside down, but it doesn't look like the shaved coil is on the lower a-arm...looks like a full coil but it's difficult to see. I'm going to call the shop that installed them and see if the guy remembers which end he used for top and bottom.



'85 SS ZZ383, Extreme Automatics 2004r, 8.5 rear w/3.73 & Z06 brakes, Harwood hood, & Torque Thrust II 17's.
#327996 - 06/13/05 03:40 PM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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Well, I just called Hotchkis and they said that the letters should not be upside down so I am OK. He also said that they will not settle very much, only a 1/4 inch or less.



'85 SS ZZ383, Extreme Automatics 2004r, 8.5 rear w/3.73 & Z06 brakes, Harwood hood, & Torque Thrust II 17's.
#327997 - 06/15/05 02:38 AM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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I have hotchiks front and rear springs and I'm still not satisfied with the ride height. I have no clearance problems with 2.5 exhaust and headers. ( maybe a tall speed bump will scrape the collectors)

When I swap over to alumheads and an alum water pump, that will take a decent amount of the front end. (mainly just the heads) its going to begin to look like the front is a little higher than the rear.
I don't wana jack the back up to compensate, and i want it a little lower in the front.

Are springs that drop it down further the key? or should i try some 2" drop spindles ontop of the 1" drop hotchiks springs.

Id hate to began to scrape everything on the road for looks.


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#327998 - 06/15/05 11:27 AM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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I was thinking the exact same thing except I am afraid of having the front tires smack the inner wheel wells when going over large bumps.

I'm really surprised with these Hotchkis springs because I had a set on an '86 Monte that I owned 5 years ago and that car sat about an inch lower than mine right now. I remember that I couldn't slide my floor jack under the engine without picking up on the body. Now, the floor jack has plenty clearance above it. I realize that every car is a bit different, but that seems extreme.

My "drag bags" just arrived yesterday so I'll put them in this weekend to raise the back slightly to level out the look. I'm also hoping that if I raise the back an inch, the front will be maybe a little lower...please...I don't like my Monte looking like my Silverado I drive in the winter.



'85 SS ZZ383, Extreme Automatics 2004r, 8.5 rear w/3.73 & Z06 brakes, Harwood hood, & Torque Thrust II 17's.
#327999 - 06/16/05 04:47 PM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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My 85 SS has the full Hotchkis kit, springs, sways, trailing arms, etc, with KYB gas shocks, The car site and easy 1" lower (it was immediately noticeable) and handles awesome!!!

My nose came up a little once I dropped in the ZZ4 w/aluminum heads, took out MOST of the AC stuff, the AIR pump and dropped on a Harwood fiberglass hood. That lightened the front a bit, but I am still happy with the stance, aggressive, lower and looks good at the current height too. Definitely lower than the stock ride height.


1985 MCSS-ZZ4, Eddy headers, custom tuned Q-Jet, CK stage 2 2004r, Hotchkis TVS, ZQ8 wheels and cowl hood
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#328000 - 06/16/05 06:48 PM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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Quote:
Originally posted by RaGG:
I have hotchiks front and rear springs and I'm still not satisfied with the ride height.
I'm in the same boat.. My rear dropped 1" while the front only went down 1/2", if that. I had to put airbags in the rear to get the height back up to make the car look proportional. But the bags are a good thing because I can carry a tranny in the trunk and the rear sits normal \:\)

On the spring note, I can't remember which way the words are.. I put them in upside down the first time. Check this picture out - The stock spring is in the correct direction, the hotchkis spring is upside down. The tighter wound coils go on the top:

http://home.comcast.net/~spudmanmike/ftsprings.jpg


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#328001 - 06/17/05 10:33 AM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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I just installed the air bags last night and drove the car to work for the first time this morning!! The ride quality is very good..not too bouncy. I only have about 5 psi of air in the bags and that raised the rear an inch. It looks much better now that the car's not dragging it's tail.



'85 SS ZZ383, Extreme Automatics 2004r, 8.5 rear w/3.73 & Z06 brakes, Harwood hood, & Torque Thrust II 17's.
#328002 - 02/02/06 02:59 AM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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Man jjmontess has al the cool stuff. I need to get a job where he works, lol. Very cool!


Bradley
#328003 - 02/02/06 03:58 AM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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Dude, I have hotchkis sping on my car and it didnt drop it that much. I think i have about 3" between the wheel well and tire. I'm going with OPG 3" drop spings this spring.

#328004 - 02/02/06 11:16 AM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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Same here. Hotchkis springs front and rear. Didnt drop much if any.

....Bill


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#328005 - 02/04/06 03:28 AM Re: Hotckis springs installed  
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Same here. They ride firm but not harsh. Just what most are after except maybe a little lower. I wonder how they would be cut a half to full coil or so.


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