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#1068060 - 09/21/20 12:33 AM Rodents vs. Monte Carlo  
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My car sat for a few months and today it wouldn't start. I found a nest on the intake, chewed purge hoses, chewed choke wire, and the bent rubber line before the fuel pump had been chewed. Fortunately, it started after manually adding fuel to the float bowl.

Will standard fuel line bend, without kinking, to replace the chewed fuel line? or is there a prebent replacement line available?

#1068062 - 09/21/20 01:05 AM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Just get some rubber fuel hose the correct size, you should be fine!


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#1068063 - 09/21/20 01:06 AM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Thanks Leo.

Marc

#1068099 - 09/23/20 02:13 AM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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I have heard that bounce dryer sheets keep rodents away. Apparently they do not like the smell.


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#1068102 - 09/23/20 12:17 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Thanks Fred.

#1068126 - 09/24/20 11:21 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Mens speedstick deodorant Get a few stick put them in the car, intake etc. It works.


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#1068134 - 09/26/20 02:47 AM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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I repaired the damage today:
  • Heated choke wire: Had to remove 3 inches and solder back together.
  • 5/16" Hose between charcoal canister and solid line to fuel tank
  • 3/8" Hose between charcoal canister and vapor canister purge valve
  • 5/32" Vacuum line between vacuum storage ball and cruise control
  • 3/8" Hose between fuel pump and solid fuel feed line
  • 1/4" Hose between fuel pump and solid fuel return line

#1068135 - 09/26/20 04:08 AM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Marc, if those friends of yours like chewing on rubber that much you may need to check the three rubber lines under the heat shield above the rear axle.


I'd have to look in my stash of original rubber lines to see which ones I still have in that box, they are in good condition if i have them. Of the 5 original rubber lines 4 have been changed larger new lines.

Still have that cream puff original rearview mirror in a plastic bag for you. And a few other parts I'd like to throw in your trunk.
Bob

#1068140 - 09/26/20 12:19 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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I am hoping the hoses above the fuel tank are OK, but will keep them in mind to check at a later date. The car did start, and there were no leaks on the ground under the tank, so there must not be any holes in the feed line or return line at the tank. They do like the engine compartment and intake manifold, as I have seen traces of nuts and droppings for years, but this is the first time I have seen such destruction. There are also chew marks on the inner fender.

I haven't forgotten about your generous offer, Bob.

Marc

#1068141 - 09/26/20 04:45 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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i do appliance service and once saw damage from a mouse chewing the rubber hose that is used for water lever fill height. Needless to say the washer didn't shut off the water when filling and gallons of water went on the floor as it spilled over the side of the tub.
Just recently my friend truck park in his driveway was invaded by nice. Smart little buggers to get into the glove box through the A/C-fresh air intake. Caught four of them in the glove box.
Bob

#1068142 - 09/26/20 06:23 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Fortunately, the interior doesn't smell of mouse.

The washer incident is definitely a nightmare. Water is essential, but is quite damaging.

#1070324 - 04/12/21 05:54 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Last October, I was told about a product called Fresh Cab, which is a pouch that you can put in your car, RV, shed, etc. and it is supposed to deter rodents. I discovered it uses balsamic fir oil as its active ingredient. I also found that mice hate peppermint oil.

I bought some NOW brand balsamic fir oil and peppermint oil, and mixed them (diluted) in a WD-40 spray bottle. I sprayed the engine bay and the intake manifold in the fall and again one day when the weather was nice in late winter, and there has been no sign of activity. There were no droppings, food, or nesting materials. I used about 20 drops of each oil in the spray bottle.

Marc

#1070329 - 04/13/21 03:24 AM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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That is good information Marc. Thank You for posting it.


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#1070330 - 04/13/21 04:20 AM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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We all hate meeces to pieces. Had a few in the house the start of last winter, gone ,gone, gone.
Two of my friends had them in the car, they chewed some rubber tubing under the hood and in the cowl of a Dodge Journey, dealer repair 400 bucks. The other was a Toyota Tacoma, they came in through cabin filter and finished the Lance crackers left in the glove box.

Years ago had a problem at work with mice, had an exterminator called in. This while doing major construction needed a BIG hole in the front wall of the newspaper building. He followed the trail, they don't leave footprints, for a hundred feet from that opening to a hoagie shop in desk drawer on the top floor. Her 80s Caprice wagon had only room for a driver.

Had them in my shop off and on, they come in for the Winter. We leave zero eatable in the shop, all except the time Bill left grass seed in a plastic container. Found seed stashed all over the place.

That Journey we put moth ball in several places under the hood. No idea if it really works.
The Tacoma they met the firing squad, haven't seen one since. One of the marvels of the industrial revolution, they are still trying to reinvent it for 140 years now.

Have use the sticky pads on the floor, but felt they were cruel and unusual punishment, I prefer the trap. My neighbor had the sticky traps, her mice took fiberglass out of the walls and built bridges across the stickies. Cool.

Sold a refurbished washing machine to a women, a month later it was flooding the basement. Not my fault, a mouse ate the rubber hose to the water level control,

Smart little rodents they are, them and the damn street squirrels. Don't get me started on squirrels.
Bob

#1070331 - 04/13/21 12:15 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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They can cause a lot of damage. I just repaired a fire job on a 2017 f250 Lariat where they chewed on the seat wiring and caught the seat on fire. The guy went into a store and came out and his truck was on fire. They got the fire out quickly. Didn't cause any paint or glass damage, but had to replace everything inside of the cab. The total insurance bill was over $21000 (this truck new was over $80000)! Found a mouse nest under the center console and above the headliner. The only things melted were the pass seat,console and carpet. Everything else was smoke damage. We have another customer that every year the rodents attack the two cars they own. There's everything from moth balls to bars of soap hanging under the hood but they still attack the wire harness. Will have to tell the customer about the fresh cab product.

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#1070332 - 04/13/21 12:23 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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You're very welcome, Fred. I hope my experience helps others.

I empathize, Bob. They have been in my garage, too. I have a few shelves of transmission parts that I have been selling off. Some used gears were destroyed by mouse pee; when I looked for the gears, they were covered in nesting material and rusted.

We just use the proven medieval-design snap traps with success; they are the most humane. Last year we added bait stations to the house perimeter and that has helped a great deal. The snap traps in the garage, basement, and attic have seen far fewer patrons.

There are no mouse consumables in the garage, basement, or attic, unless you include rubber hoses and plastic.

Marc

#1070334 - 04/13/21 01:25 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Chris, don't forget to tell them about peppermint oil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNaNGH_hnEE

Marc

#1070338 - 04/13/21 03:16 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Thanks Marc I will! My wife doesn't understand why I freak out when I see a mouse in the garage. After telling her about the fire job now she does haha!

#1070339 - 04/13/21 03:41 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Agreed! My fear has always been chewed Romex causing a fire. I hope I never experience it.

Marc

#1070343 - 04/13/21 05:57 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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I've been looking at getting a MouseBlocker to keep the rodents out of my garage, been doing a little research on them, they make 2 versions a 12v & 120v that plugs into your wall.Says that it makes a high pitched noise that repels rodents Has anyone here used them ????


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#1070352 - 04/13/21 11:39 PM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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I don't have any experience with ultrasonic devices aimed at deterring rodents, but from what I have read placement is a key factor in efficacy because the sound will not travel through objects. Additionally, it seems a sound that initially scares a rodent away will become ineffective over time if the sound does not produce any harm; they learn the sound is not something to be afraid of.

#1070355 - 04/14/21 12:52 AM Re: Rodents vs. Monte Carlo [Re: T5montecarlo]  
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Mickey Mouse would put earmuffs on to mute Minnie.I wouldn't doubt mice are smart enough to get around soundwaves.

Squirrels are extremely capable of adapting and may be a tad smarter than the average mouse. I've been at war with those tree rats for a few years now. I just glad the hawk populating is increasing, on a diet of squirrel. Unlike deer around here the squirrels learned how to cross the street.
Last Summer it was groundhogs, "relocated" five.
Currently there's a possum that likes to eat out of my compost pile, our paths have crossed several times. Once he got trapped because he didn't know he was a possum. the sign on the trap said "groundhogs only". We let him go. Late one night i was sitting in the backyard talking on the phone, he walked 3' aside me. didn't say Hi. Twice in the past month have seen him taking the shortcut between the yards on the tram, the top rail of the chain link fence. Maybe 1/2 mp, close to top speed for a possum.
I don't bother him for a couple reasons. I'm told one of the staples of their diet is ticks. The other is they don't get rabies and aren't on that destroy list here in PA. Any vermin on the rabies carrier list must be destroyed if you remove it from your property. No taking it across the river if you catch the nuisance that's eating your tomatoes.

By the way mice are on that list too.
Bob


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