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#1067076 - 06/30/20 11:03 AM 86 Chassis options  
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Good morning all.

As I brink into the restoration of my first car which I have had since I was 15 (1986 Monte Carlo) I am reaching out to discuss chassis options. In research I have came across both the the Schwartz Option as well as the the Roadster Shop option.

Are there any other options available that anyone is aware of?

This will be no outlaw or track monster race car. I may visit a track once or twice every other year. This vehicle I do not plan to part with. I do plan to take long trips and want something to drop some weight, increase road stability etc. Simply checking availability.

Open to experiences on all available options.

Thank you in advance.


DerbyCity(502) 1986 Monte Carlo SS
#1067081 - 06/30/20 12:27 PM Re: 86 Chassis options [Re: VENNIX]  
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Originally Posted by VENNIX
Good morning all.

As I brink into the restoration of my first car which I have had since I was 15 (1986 Monte Carlo) I am reaching out to discuss chassis options. In research I have came across both the the Schwartz Option as well as the the Roadster Shop option.

Are there any other options available that anyone is aware of?

This will be no outlaw or track monster race car. I may visit a track once or twice every other year. This vehicle I do not plan to part with. I do plan to take long trips and want something to drop some weight, increase road stability etc. Simply checking availability.

Open to experiences on all available options.

Thank you in advance.


While the roadster shop and Schwartz frames are cool, I'm not sure id recommend them for what you want to do. They are designed to be dedicated pro-touring/racing frames. I'm not sure if you give up any comfort or ride quality with them. They may be extreme overkill for your application.

If it were me, I'd go grab the UMI catalog or call up Ramey at UMI and tell him what your build goals are and buy the list of parts he recommends. It will save you $1000's over the Schwarts or Roadster shop frames and get you 85% of the way there.


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#1067084 - 06/30/20 01:59 PM Re: 86 Chassis options [Re: VENNIX]  
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What do these "chassis options" cost?
Sounds like a poor investment considering what you can do with the stock frame.


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#1067088 - 06/30/20 04:10 PM Re: 86 Chassis options [Re: VENNIX]  
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As said above, you can get a majority of the benefits of those $$$ chassis options for a fraction of the cost(and less weight). UMI is a great source, another place also in PA is https://scandc.com/ who also occasionally posts here and plenty of other's who have very similar offerings for suspension upgrades for our cars. Lots of aftermarket options depending on how far you want to go and how much you want to spend. Other sources/brands, pick your flavor: Speedtech, Global West, BMR suspension, many others I'm forgetting. There are also things you can do that vendors don't sell, used GM parts such as a bigger front sway bar, brake upgrades, some may be bolt-ons some may take light modifications to install.


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#1067089 - 06/30/20 04:24 PM Re: 86 Chassis options [Re: upflying]  
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Originally Posted by upflying
What do these "chassis options" cost?
Sounds like a poor investment considering what you can do with the stock frame.

optioned the way I want one, about $33,000


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#1067111 - 07/01/20 01:48 PM Re: 86 Chassis options [Re: VENNIX]  
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I had to search for the Roadster Shop chassis, $20,000...and no doubt up from there.
Like I said, the MCSS is an $8000 car, modifying it with a $20,000 frame will increase it's value to $10,000.
I cant see the logic of the expense unless it is a SEMA build.

https://roadstershop.com/product/full-chassis/1978-88-g-body-fast-track-chassis/

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#1067115 - 07/01/20 03:51 PM Re: 86 Chassis options [Re: VENNIX]  
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Street Rod Garage has a chassis option as well, although I don't know anyone that has any experience with it.

http://www.streetrodgarage.com/gmgbodymontecarlograndnationalcutlassgrandprix.aspx

While a full replacement chassis setup can be a decent way to go, you can make your car just as good with less money if you are willing to put some work and detail into your build. Best part of this route is you can do it a little at a time instead of the all at once chunk of change layout. I think you can get into a Schwartz or SRG chassis for in the $10-13k range depending on options which really isn't that bad of a deal once you add up all of the parts and pieces that come with it like axle housings, brakes, shocks, etc. Personally, I chose to save the money on the frame rails and upgrade a few other pieces and I've beat replacement chassis cars on track before, so it can be done.

My advice is to pick and choose one piece of the puzzle to fix at a time and keep the car running and driving between upgrades. Too many times one tears a car completely apart with grand plans and then the project spirals out of control never to be finished. I think one is way more likely to keep working and fixing on the car if you keep it driving along the way.

Good luck and if you have any questions along the way, just ask...I've probably been there done that (well except for the whole LS swap debacle laugh ) and can help you avoid pitfalls as you progress.


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