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#1047601 - 01/28/17 10:51 AM Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry.  
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I have heard that tubular upper control arms are the way to go for extra clearance for headers and better geometry with the alignment. I saw some on Speedway Motors for about 50. Whenever I finish this car it may see a track but it will be mostly a cruiser.Any insight will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


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#1047602 - 01/28/17 12:34 PM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: DC87Monte]  
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not sure what the speedway arms do for enhanced geometry but they will give you more header clearance if you have a tight fit in that area.


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#1047603 - 01/28/17 01:30 PM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: DC87Monte]  
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$ 50.00 = You get what you pay for.....
Just my opinion.
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#1047606 - 01/28/17 03:29 PM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: DC87Monte]  
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Spaceman, I feel the same way. I can see the advantages of a tubular control arm especially with the headers I have. I just wanted some imput. Over the years I have read about different control arms and all the geometrics. I would like a good upper that gives that gives a better geometric handling solution versus old technology......Bang Vs.Buck good start, because I know to say Great start Is a Money Pit....


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#1047608 - 01/28/17 06:38 PM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: DC87Monte]  
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Something that comes into play when talking geometry improvement by changing UCAs is the necessity of the changing to the tall ball joints, usually the UCAs are longer to work with the tall joints. Generally the UCA to improve geometry are every pricey.

Those Speedway arms I believe are stock replacement, will not create a geometry improvement. On certain classes of stock car racing the original front geometry needs to be maintained, replacing the UCAs with those arms will conform to the rules, save some weight, allow easy ball joint replacement and have steel bushings instead of the soft rubber like stock. A + for a stock car, no real gain for a street car. Maybe a little more clearance for headers, maybe look cool, downside would be a little more NVH due to the steel bushings.
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#1047611 - 01/28/17 11:03 PM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: mmc427ss]  
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I have a set of new Spoon upper and lower arms black powder coat. I'll give a good price on. I just bolted them on and will sell off the entire front end due to a new build with many pricey upgrades.


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#1047644 - 01/30/17 11:53 AM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: DC87Monte]  
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The speedway arms are an offset design for turning left, one side is stock and the other offset (can't remember which side) and they offer no geometric changes like UMI, Detroit speed, SPC.... They are designed for short course racing and a few over the years have run them and they need to constantly be regreased for daily use. But ultimately they end up failing bc there not designed for street duty.

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#1047666 - 01/30/17 08:48 PM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: DC87Monte]  
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Wow, thanks fellas, I guess for Longevity I am going to have to invest in A set of Quality upper control arms and bushings then lowers. I was talking to a Co-worker that had a turbo buick and he told me that with the downpipe that close to the bushings they were constantly wearing out and sqeaking from the heat is that a problem with headers also??? Sidenote to Jameson I got the best white Shrimp from Camden in the late 90's, when I worked for Coca-Cola out of Norfolk....


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#1047667 - 01/30/17 08:50 PM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: DC87Monte]  
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I guess what I am asking is if there a heat problem is there a bushing made to handle the heat???


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#1047669 - 01/30/17 09:57 PM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: DC87Monte]  
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I remember reading about that heat problem on Turbo Buicks. Dennis Kirban sells a heat shield that bolts to the rear passenger side upper control arm bushing to deflect the excessive heat. Actually bought one, but never got around to installing it. I never heard of this being a problem on Monte Carlo SS.

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#1047686 - 01/31/17 02:46 PM Re: Upper Control Arms for header space and geometry. [Re: DC87Monte]  
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Thanks Fredd SS


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