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#1036551 - 03/20/16 05:22 PM Which B&M shifter  
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Which B&M shifter is the one that I need for my application? It is an 87 SS with the 200R4 transmission. The car has a floor shifter, but I think it is linked to the column as well somehow.

Currently the shifter will go into gear just fine, but when going back into park, you need to manually turn the column in order for the transmission to shift back into park.

Ive decided to just install a B&M shifter unless someone knows what the issue is and how to fix it quick.


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2007 Honda Element - My dog hauler
2000 Mitsubishi Mirage - My gas sipper
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#1036564 - 03/21/16 12:34 AM Re: Which B&M shifter [Re: wit2003]  
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Sounds like the linkage to the column is out of adjustment. When shifting does the needle indicate the correct gear? And even if you put a B&M in it you will need to get the linkage adjusted right to still work correctly and also have the neutral safety switch and ignition all function right.


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#1036565 - 03/21/16 12:44 AM Re: Which B&M shifter [Re: wit2003]  
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The needle hasn't worked since I got the car..but I think its because the cable for the needle is not connected.

What would be easier to do, have the stock shifter fixed/adjusted(are parts still available?) or buy a B&M and totally do away with the column portion of the shifter?


1987 Monte Carlo SS, T-Tops - My toy
2007 Honda Element - My dog hauler
2000 Mitsubishi Mirage - My gas sipper
1999 GMC Sierra 1500 - Lowes run truck
#1036567 - 03/21/16 12:59 AM Re: Which B&M shifter [Re: wit2003]  
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Digging around under the car and fiddling with things is easier than buying and installing a new shifter. You might be missing a grommet on the linkage or is might need a quick adjustment. Either way, finding the issue is always better than just throwing random parts at it. You'll need a friend to shift gears while you look at the way things move around and see why park isn't engaging but it could be a simple solution that saves you time and money.

On the other hand, if you are looking for an excuse to get a shifter, now is the time to justify the purchase. Personally, I think there are too many moving parts in ratchet shifters and would look into gated versions. I bought but have yet to install a TCI fast gate shifter. For $150 I think it's worth trying and suit my needs fine.

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#1036570 - 03/21/16 01:12 AM Re: Which B&M shifter [Re: wit2003]  
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If I turn the steering column while I shift the floor shifter into park or any other gear( D-->N-->R-->P) it works just as it should. I can get from park into any gear just fine...so not really sure what happened.


1987 Monte Carlo SS, T-Tops - My toy
2007 Honda Element - My dog hauler
2000 Mitsubishi Mirage - My gas sipper
1999 GMC Sierra 1500 - Lowes run truck
#1036643 - 03/22/16 03:21 AM Re: Which B&M shifter [Re: wit2003]  
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its the linkage to the column thats messed up. all of our cars have a rod that goes from the top of the steering shaft down to the transmission linkage. Thats how your gear indicator works, as well as the factory neutral safety switch. usually it wont work with headers. you dont have to have that rod at all.

as far as shifters go, not all that many have gate plates that work with a 200r4. I prefer the B&M prostick. I currently have the magnum stealth. just my opinion, but i think the fastgate is ugly and the cover is too tall. Also, i didnt find much as far as upgrades to it for a lineloc or transbrake. but thats just me.


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