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#1033509 - 12/24/15 02:07 AM Christmas Came Early  
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Been a long time since I got in the mood to even look at my car let alone work on or buy parts for it. But I ordered a new read end to go along with parts I've collected over the years.









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#1033518 - 12/24/15 02:53 AM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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That's a hell of a mood. Good looking parts..Good Luck

#1033521 - 12/24/15 03:49 AM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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That is nice!!


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#1033523 - 12/24/15 04:46 AM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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#1033529 - 12/24/15 11:56 AM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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Heck yeah!! That's one way to get motivated again for sure!


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#1033534 - 12/24/15 02:07 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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So you went from zero on the meter to 10000%!!

That will handle all you can throw at it... Fun times ahead


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#1033537 - 12/24/15 02:57 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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Holy smokes. I've been pretty good this year too so put in a nice word with Santa for me. smile


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#1033538 - 12/24/15 03:35 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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One word........SWEEEEEET. OK, one more word.....JEALOUS.


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#1033539 - 12/24/15 03:52 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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That is a sweet setup! Congrats!
I think you will be moving from Santa's nice list to the naughty list.
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#1033542 - 12/24/15 06:04 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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I haven't touched my car in about 5.5 years, haven't bought anything or done any work in about 7 years. Got a fire under my xxxx and bucked up for myself this year. I had the sway bar for about 10+ years now, springs I've had about 8 years, and everything else I got in the last 2 weeks.

I got a driveshaft, converter, fuel pump, trans cooler, and exhaust as well. Still have fuel line and fittings, shifter, trans lines, power steering, alternator, and some misc items to get. Maybe I should find this old build thread I started and start adding back to it.


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#1033543 - 12/24/15 06:05 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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That setup is so nice, it's motivating me to work on my car!


-Mike

F-body bucket seats, camaro console, carb'd 5.3/4L80E swap

Fastest time to date: 13.390 @ 102.42
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#1033544 - 12/24/15 06:11 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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Very nice setup.


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#1033575 - 12/25/15 06:01 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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Wow, what a setup!!!! That will diffinetly help the rubber meet the road. Congrats!!!!!


... " HEY - O " ... LET THE HORSES RUN

#1033577 - 12/25/15 06:29 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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So how many of us are going to walk out to our cars today and imagine how your setup would look??? Great project with real upside... give updates. The way the weather is shaping up you can start on it now....

#1033597 - 12/26/15 09:08 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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Nice!

#1033626 - 12/27/15 11:23 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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I wire brushed the whole floor and frame rails from the rear seat area back and painted it today. Getting closer to putting the parts on the car.


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#1033809 - 01/02/16 01:37 AM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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Well I got it in today, had to swap out the bolts on the housing side after this because they were to long. But all in all good progress.



1987 Monte Carlo SS - 2006 GXP

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#1034033 - 01/07/16 03:05 AM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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bad to the bone.


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#1034084 - 01/09/16 02:07 AM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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I'm almost afraid to find out how much that cost lol

#1034113 - 01/10/16 02:48 AM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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Not sure what your car build direction is, street, strip, track or a combination of all.

You have a lot going on there. With all those new, not original parts going in there are several things you can check. A good time to pull each control arm, measure and set exact center length, write it down, snug the locknuts. This makes adjusting the pinion angle, trust angle of the rear, wheel centering in the opening, instant center, anti-dive, easier when you know what each arm is set at.
What I've found with three different LCAs is they were all different lengths. The stock LCA and Global West were fixed length, the other is an Spohn adj, all varied a lot in length from one another right out of the box.

If you were to put a floor jack under the center of the rear, with the springs, shocks and sway bar removed, you can articulate the rear to mimic every thing it needs to do. Raising and lower of the jack and rocking the rear around it's axis will show how nice it is not have bind as one side goes up the other side down. They check also let you know that all those not original parts are working, not binding.
The important check is to see how much pinion angle changes as the suspension goes through full droop to full compression. You would be surprised at how large that change is on even stock parts. You can approximate ride height by measuring from the center line of the axle to the quarterpanel lip, 14" is a close number. Use the jack to set that height, check both side, then check the pinion angle. Jack the rear up to full compression, check angle, then full droop which should be checked with the shocks attached. You will be surprised at the changes in angle of the pinion. The length of the UCA and LCA, their pickup point on the rear can effect the pinion angle change. Again lot of nice fancy parts going in, easy to check the stupid stuff now.

Another thing, the 9" has several LCA possible locations, each posision can effect IC and antidive. It would be good to set it to what the cars intended use is, AND do the above "pinion angle changing plot" on that setting.
Notice that the hole in the rear LCA mount are not in a straight line, ideally if you were to change from one to another the pinion angle wouldn't change. Simple pull the bolt out of the second hole, side the arm to the 4th and the bolt goes right back in. If it doesn't and you need to move the rear the pinion angle will change. Something to check.

With an 8 1/2 rear, LCA relocation mounts done, for my street setup I run with the LCA 1 1/2" lower than stock. I prefer that setting for the street and run that at an autox. For drag racing move it to the lower 2 1/2" point. The IC is better, and the car seems to like it on launches, but I feel the car drives, handles and stops better on the lower setting.

Once the car is on an alignment rack and the rear toe, camber and thrust angle can be measured with the car is sitting at ride height, then you can set the LCAs to adjust the thrust angle, adjust the tire forward of backward, set the LCA angle you desire. And then go to the UCA and set the pinion angle, then see what your driveline angles are. Now check to see if the rear is center side to side in the car. You can tweak a little by adjusting the UCAs lengths unequal but then you need to check the thrust angle again and possibly tweak the LCA to adjust thrust. I think it's more important that the rear and frame are in alignment, less about how the tire is centered in the body line.

Also, with the springs and sway bar off jack the rear up to full compression and check that the shocks haven't bottomed out, this is an important check. Bottoming shocks will destroy them. The stock suspension has snubbers/bumpers to limit travel for a reason. You need at least a 1/2" left in shock travel when the rear is in full compression.

Sounds like a lot of work, comes with spending money on nice parts.
HTP
Bob

#1034168 - 01/11/16 04:15 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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I had to square the rear end since they are single adj arms. I set the length off of some solid arms I had on my 8.5 and seems to be centered fairly well. I set the uppers to 11+1/8" and lowers at 19+1/4". Once i get a drive train in it and the drive shaft Ill set the pinon angle. I ran the rear up with no springs and have a few inches left in the shocks so ill be good with that.


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#1034930 - 02/07/16 06:18 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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Well after taking stuff in and out while fitting and checking stuff its now all in, lubed up, and hopefully won't need to come back out. Just added a shock tower brace because I figured it can't hurt to help try and stiffen the chassis up a little. Last thing is to do a little more machineing on my sway bar to get it to fit. Got new studs as well, got the longest that strange makes which is 4" so I can run all wheel types and not have an issue.



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#1047695 - 01/31/17 08:19 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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so it's been just about a year and this project has actually gone backwards and finally getting closer to where it was. Not sure where the pics i had loaded to photobucket went though, so i uploaded more.

so in the last year I decided to buy a new frame for the car, mine had some rot that I needed to fix and I couldn't pass up the price on this bare frame. While it was out I then decided to do some upgrades to it.

First thing was I had the rear of the frame notched quit a bit. Second was I had tube added to stiffen the spring/shock tower area since we cut a bit of the frame out. Then put in a 4 link style brackets to the upper control arm area for added adjustability. next the open section of the frame was boxed in as were the factory triangle brace areas and lower control arm mount with the same 11ga steel. Lastly the upper control arm area was plated and a tube added between it and the inner frame for more rigidity.














from there i put the suspension back in, only difference is now i added adjustable spring perches and tie downs to the rear end








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#1047696 - 01/31/17 08:20 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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I then drilled out a stock wheel for the 5/8" studs and checked the fitment over the baer 11 brakes and distance to frame now. I had about 1/8 clearance before the notch, now there is a little more room. I am hoping to run stock wheels to make it less assuming.








and lastly i had to get the front suspension on. I went with UMI upper arm with rod ends and 1/2" taller ball joint, UMi lower with delron bushings, bell tech 2" drop spindles that needed to be machined a bit for the brakes, Afco single adjustable reactor shocks with the afco coil over conversion with a 350lb spring. I got it all in this past weekend and hooked all the steering up to make sure that was all good. I used a stock replacement centerlink with a TRZ bumpsteer kit and prothane tie rod caps. Baer billet hubs along with the SS4+ brake kit rounds out the front. I will be running a stock front sway bar with prothane mounts and endlinks, the stock chassis V braces, and had a GP style chassis brace made to go with this stuff.














and thats where Im at today....now i gotta get the body off the old frame and swapped over and start plumbing and wiring everything.


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#1047700 - 01/31/17 09:12 PM Re: Christmas Came Early [Re: Dom87SS]  
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Very nice !!
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