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#1011516 - 09/02/14 02:47 PM should I pull the engine?  
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I'm finally getting around to swapping out the old 200. I also need to replace the engine oil pan gasket. I have no emissions and full length headers. Should I pull engine and trans together? I'm not a fan of working on my back, then again I would hate to create more work than necessary. I also plan on installing my serp. setup so either way I'm draining the cooling system. Opinions?


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#1011523 - 09/02/14 04:45 PM Re: should I pull the engine? [Re: WaSSted]  
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Yes to pulling the engine, no to doing at the same time. You may find additional things on the engine you'll want to address while you have it out. good luck.


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#1011562 - 09/03/14 12:03 AM Re: should I pull the engine? [Re: WaSSted]  
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i'd pull engine.a nice engine stand would really help alot also


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#1011574 - 09/03/14 01:46 AM Re: should I pull the engine? [Re: WaSSted]  
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pull then together


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#1011589 - 09/03/14 06:22 AM Re: should I pull the engine? [Re: WaSSted]  
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I never pull them together. I always feel it is an unnecessary risk pulling them over the header panel and having to pull the engine hoist back at the same time. I prefer to remove separate and place a jack stand under the front of the tranny. I have a small little cart (got from Harbor Freight) like the kind you use to move heavy stuff around I place under the tranny and lower it down on top of it. Then pull it out from under.


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#1011599 - 09/03/14 11:44 AM Re: should I pull the engine? [Re: 406monte]  
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Originally Posted By: 406monte
I never pull them together. I always feel it is an unnecessary risk pulling them over the header panel and having to pull the engine hoist back at the same time.


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More work and with these older cars, more things to break. Pulling a trans on your back is way easier then pulling a motor. The oil pan slips out afterwards with the trans gone. Get lots of cardboard boxes and change them as needed to keep you on the clean side, and don't forget which ever way you go you need to drain the trans beforehand.

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#1011602 - 09/03/14 12:49 PM Re: should I pull the engine? [Re: WaSSted]  
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I have done it both ways, and I can absolutely say that pulling them together is easier (for me). Its easier getting them bolted back together to go back in the car.

One thing I would advise, have a spare transmission yoke to put in the transmission while pulling. There is more fluid in there than what drains out.


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#1011626 - 09/03/14 06:46 PM Re: should I pull the engine? [Re: WaSSted]  
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I definitely agree on plugging the tail shaft. Most autoparts stores sell the tail shaft plug. I bought one and it keeps all the tranny fluid left over in it after draining in the tranny. It's a must for any tranny job. I have one of these for my tranny work.
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#1012330 - 09/14/14 08:25 AM Re: should I pull the engine? [Re: WaSSted]  
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Just swapped a motor in mine and asked the same question . If its an auto leave trans in place with a jack and a block under the trans pan and just unbolt the flex plate an bellhousing bolts and out it comes. If stick like mine pull tran then motor


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#1012341 - 09/14/14 04:22 PM Re: should I pull the engine? [Re: WaSSted]  
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Add a +1 for removing engine separately.
Hauling engine and tranny out and over the fender is more difficult and there's a higher chance of bumping something with a 600 lb wrecking ball.

If you have to do them together, the auto tranny can can get 'plugged' by using a 1 gallon ziplock bag with heavy duty rubber bands (don't laugh, it works).
You only have so much time though, as the bag will swell to an alarming size, and you do not want that to come off while the tranny is airborne.
The cooler line fittings will still leak some oil, keep the lawnmower gas can handy for garage cleanup.


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