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#996777 - 03/08/14 06:17 PM Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy)  
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Hey guys,

I just bought my first 85 Monte Carlo SS. My goals with the car is to get it daily driver status. I know absolutely nothing about fixing cars, but at the very least I want a good ride with a reliable engine. As of right now, three key things have to be done:

1. Have the door locks changed out (I don't have the key).
2. Stall converter. The car wants to pull away from me everytime I stop.
3. Electronic choke.

I've taken three people with me to see the car and it seems like for $1,000 or less, I can get the car where I want it, at least mechanically. I'll be living on these forums for a few weeks. Thanks.









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#996778 - 03/08/14 06:18 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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#996779 - 03/08/14 06:20 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Best of luck to you. Hope it brings you all the happiness our Monte's bring us.

#996781 - 03/08/14 06:30 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Sweet! And congratulations! smile

#996785 - 03/08/14 08:00 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Congrats on your Monte, and welcome to the site.
The 85 has my favorite dash trim, nice catch! beer
Here's a thread that may help with the lockup issues.
http://www.montecarloss.com/community/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=491545#Post491545


#996787 - 03/08/14 09:10 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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thanks guys. Unfortunately, I'm not a driveway-wrencher, but I might have to become one after hearing these quotes from mechanics. smh.

#996790 - 03/08/14 09:48 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Looks like a decent start. good luck, unfortunatly, I'm too far away to help mechanically.


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#996794 - 03/08/14 10:18 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Looks like a solid car and won't be to hard to get it where it's a reliable daily driver. Best thing for them is to drive them. Welcome to the site also. We are here to help and these cars are not to hard to work on either.


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#996795 - 03/08/14 10:29 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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The amount of money you spend in tools will payoff in serious savings, and you will do a better job. Not the fastest at first, but you will do it right.
These cars are pretty easy to work on, have plenty of space in the engine bay, and there are plenty of tips/tricks already learned, and many members here ready to pitch in.
I have learned a lot from others here willing to share, it's a great website!
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#996796 - 03/08/14 10:32 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Nice car!! Looks real solid.

Looks to have an aftermarket carb and distributor so the CCC stuff has been removed. Can you take the air clear off and take a few pics of the carb and post them? MAybe we can help with the idle and choke issues.

Interior looks fantastic. The 85 stuff is one off and cool (I'm biased).

We'll help you through the little stuff it needs, we'll have you with grease and dirt under your fingernails in no time.


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#996801 - 03/09/14 12:08 AM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Looks good. Is the side exit exhaust the hooker system? How does she sound?


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#996810 - 03/09/14 03:57 AM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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The body looks good from the pictures, lacks a factory rear seat brace. The car's engine is greatly altered from stock which requires more skill and knowledge to work on since a repair manual won't cover the modifications. The open air cleaner just sucks in hot engine bay air and lacks Thermac increasing warm up time and engine wear. Hopefully the car is okay but some of the PO's modifications are poor looking.


SBC powered 1987 Regal with TES headers, ZZ4 intake, ZZ4 PROM chip, mini starter, THM2004R, 2500 stall converter, 2040 cam, CCC system, and 3.73 posi rear.

2008 ex NPS P71 Crown Victoria, cop motor, cop shocks, cop brakes, and Jmod.

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#996817 - 03/09/14 01:05 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Looks good just get the few things sorted out. Give it a tune up. I shop manual will help even if your car is slightly modified. I would get that spare tire and jack secured so it does not fly around the trunk and damage the 1/4 panel. The knowledge you gain on this project will be worth the effort. Prices for professional mechanical work can be high so try it yourself. Autozone has a tool loan program for specialty tools I have used that program often. They also have repair tips on the website. Of course MCSS.com is the best bet for reliable information.

#996819 - 03/09/14 01:46 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Welcome to the site and congrats on the find. It looks like a great start. I notice in one interior shot of the dash, that the tach is showing about 2700 RPM. If the car was running when this pic was taken that could be one of the problems with the car wanting to pull away on you. Hopefully its not idling at that high RPM. You find a vast knowledge base here, with great people always willing to help.


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#996821 - 03/09/14 02:24 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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congrats, I'm no wrencher either, but I started on my monte when I had it, u will find u can pretty much do the basics on the monte with some time, its pretty easy


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#996834 - 03/09/14 05:56 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Hey focused, first thing I would start with is to find out what you have. The cheap black squirt is suspicious and covers a lot of flaws. Hate to pass along a bit of bad news but the lower rear edge of the trunk (near the tag opening) looks wavy as if Bondo was used to repair rust. This is a common rust area.
Now would be the time to check for other rust damage. Grab some old clothes, flashlight and lay on the ground facing up. Open both doors and look at the pinch weld area. Crawl under the rear quarter panels and look at the frame and body panels near where the exhaust exits. Look at the body mount bolts and use a magnet to check for Bondo around the wheel well openings.
Crawl under the car and look for rust in the floor pans/foot wells where driver and passenger feet go. Lift up the carpet and check for moisture.
Look in the lower trunk cavities (behind the spare) for evidence of rust and possible improper repair.
Engine RPM might be too high and that's why the car takes off when put in drive. Engine will not pass a smog check if you have one in Michigan.
Let us know what you find, you may have taken on a project beyond you skills.
PS, the headlight covers might be illegal, check you laws.

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#996867 - 03/10/14 02:16 AM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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I'm scrapping a really nice front passenger floor pan this week, if you need it you can come get it for free.


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#996895 - 03/10/14 05:11 AM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Hopefully that high idle is just a misadjustment and not a vacuum leak.


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2008 ex NPS P71 Crown Victoria, cop motor, cop shocks, cop brakes, and Jmod.

Never argue with an idiot.
They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
#996900 - 03/10/14 06:27 AM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: upflying]  
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Originally Posted By: upflying
Hey focused, first thing I would start with is to find out what you have. The cheap black squirt is suspicious and covers a lot of flaws. Hate to pass along a bit of bad news but the lower rear edge of the trunk (near the tag opening) looks wavy as if Bondo was used to repair rust. This is a common rust area.
Now would be the time to check for other rust damage. Grab some old clothes, flashlight and lay on the ground facing up. Open both doors and look at the pinch weld area. Crawl under the rear quarter panels and look at the frame and body panels near where the exhaust exits. Look at the body mount bolts and use a magnet to check for Bondo around the wheel well openings.
Crawl under the car and look for rust in the floor pans/foot wells where driver and passenger feet go. Lift up the carpet and check for moisture.
Look in the lower trunk cavities (behind the spare) for evidence of rust and possible improper repair.
Engine RPM might be too high and that's why the car takes off when put in drive. Engine will not pass a smog check if you have one in Michigan.
Let us know what you find, you may have taken on a project beyond you skills.
PS, the headlight covers might be illegal, check you laws.


first off, thanks guys. I'm already a bit overwhelmed, so I did rely on the opinions of a few guys I know who have owned gbodies and went to school for some stuff. My paint guy said the panels were solid for the most part, but he definitely didn't check for rust in the detail that you did. Before I purchased it, I removed the carpet in the trunk and there wasn't any rust that I saw.

As per dmv.org "Michigan currently does not require automobile or truck emissions testing."

As for the engine, I do have one reliable guy in Detroit who has been racing/wrenching for 15+ years. He has been vouched for by at least 6 people I know with nice old school cars. HOWEVER, I'm here to learn. I love going into a situation or discussion with basic knowledge. I'll get his opinions/diagnosis on what's going on and report back to you guys.

I've been on this forum lurking for about 3 months, just soaking in knowledge. I know how much of a valuable asset it can be, as everything I've searched for, I've found at least 5 threads answering my questions.

I'm very grateful for all the replies...and even though I don't drink, I owe all of you guys a beer. Thanks.

#996901 - 03/10/14 06:30 AM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: jwc55]  
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Originally Posted By: jwc55
Welcome to the site and congrats on the find. It looks like a great start. I notice in one interior shot of the dash, that the tach is showing about 2700 RPM. If the car was running when this pic was taken that could be one of the problems with the car wanting to pull away on you. Hopefully its not idling at that high RPM. You find a vast knowledge base here, with great people always willing to help.


the car was off during the pics. I'll take a vid tomorrow of it running if there's light out. I haven't driven the car yet because I haven't had a chance to get plates. I know it sounds dumb, but I have to get an alarm on this thing before I do anything. I refuse to even drive it to my mechanic in Detroit without one.

#996916 - 03/10/14 02:48 PM Re: Just bought my first 85 MCSS (pic heavy) [Re: focused313]  
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Nice car, and good luck.

I would be suspicious of whoever told you to put a stall converter in it because it wants to pull away when you stop. You don't want a high stall converter in a daily-driven car; that's really just a band-aid trying to offset the actual problem.


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