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#994176 - 02/05/14 08:45 PM seat belt retractor question...  
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hello all, the Monte is coming along quite well. im working out the bugs here and there. one of my biggest fears is if i get into an accident, im not very well protected. well, you know when you pull hard and fast on a seatbelt it is suppost to lock up to restrain your body from moving forward? well neither the driver nor passenger side lock up.. what could cause this? and how can i fix it?? thanks a bunch

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#994179 - 02/05/14 09:09 PM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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how are you testing them?

they have to be at operating length to work. if they're fully retracted they won't grab.

easiest thing to do is sit in the seat clasp the belt adjust it. then give it a quick firm yank.

if it still doesn't work open the doors and look at the base of the b pillar there should be a black lever with a little arm sticking out that contacts the door. if they're broken replace them and then check the seatbelt function again.


oh and make sure to have the doors closed when testing them

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#994181 - 02/05/14 09:33 PM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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When I got in my accident, my belt didn't lock and I busted my face on the steering wheel. Would also like to know everything about the setup to prevent that from happening again.


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#994187 - 02/05/14 11:23 PM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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test with the doors closed


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#994193 - 02/06/14 12:50 AM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seat_belt#Locking_retractors

I read in one place the housings are not airtight, allowing dirt and dust to gum the mechanisms up. That is besides spilled drinks or whatever else.


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#994201 - 02/06/14 02:08 AM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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i just tested with the doors closed and took a video, will upload to youtube and post a link.


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#994212 - 02/06/14 04:03 AM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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I think I recall blowing taking the apart and blowing them out with a air gun works. I tried to spray some PB blaster around some parts and put the air gun in all the small cracks while moving the belt itself (retracting and pulling out). My seatbelt would sometimes work, but most of the time you wouldnt notice it if it would, unless I'm in a hurry to unbuckle it.

I think over the years, the fabric dust/fabric that comes off the belt, general dust, dirt, hair (anykind of hair, dog hair, etc.), even soda that spilled on the belt can mess with the seatbelt, slowing the retracting speed, not allowing it to work properly.

Spraying it down with light degrasser, and water, then blowing it out with a air gun may or may not help you, but it kinda helped me at the time.

#994218 - 02/06/14 02:11 PM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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I would try cleaning it. It could be a problem taking the interior panel off to gain access. good luck.


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#995013 - 02/15/14 03:39 AM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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Replace the seat belt, same thing happened on my MBZ 500 CLK!

#1004670 - 06/11/14 09:07 PM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: RoadWarrior]  
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Hi,

I have this exact same problem, and already know the (dumb) plastic retractor release lever is broken. Says to replace, but where can you find it? Is junk yard the only option? Many of those don't go that far back nowadays. Maybe it was used for quite a few years. I have tried searching a few old car part replacement sites with no luck. Thanks for any help; this seat belt is driving me crazy. Have already been stopped with a warning.


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#1004701 - 06/12/14 02:26 AM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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A ton of them on ebay, running from brand new ($65.00) to used ones for $12.00 each (plus shipping). You decide what you want to spend but they are out there.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=78...Id=390089926202


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#1004749 - 06/12/14 05:03 PM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: Milo]  
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Originally Posted By: Milo
Hi,

I have this exact same problem, and already know the (dumb) plastic retractor release lever is broken. Says to replace, but where can you find it? Is junk yard the only option? Many of those don't go that far back nowadays. Maybe it was used for quite a few years. I have tried searching a few old car part replacement sites with no luck. Thanks for any help; this seat belt is driving me crazy. Have already been stopped with a warning.
You should be able to use your seatbelt even with the black lever on the door broken.

#1018910 - 01/25/15 06:51 PM Re: seat belt retractor question... [Re: 1986SSclone]  
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Hello,

I was just doing some research on replacing the LH (driver side) seat belt retractor and came across this thread. The LH retractor on my 85 SS has been broken for several years but the seat belt locking function has always continued to work. It locks the belt under heavy braking and even under heavy acceleration with my 383. smile From my understanding, the retractor lever in the door jamb is only there to allow the belt to hold a certain position once fastened. IE - so the belt isn't always pulling against your body, trying to retract, while you're driving around. Based on own experience, I believe the belt locking function is independent of the retractor latch in the door jamb.


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