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Turbo Monte 88 SS Build

Posted By: beatboy77

Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/05/17 02:42 PM

I was lucky enough to find a low mileage (28,000 miles) 1988 SS car from Texas a couple of months a go. No rust, other than just a very small amount on the corner of each door and scale underneath. The car has some very minor dents on the drivers side door, where it looks like someone leaned on the car consistently over the years. That is my guess any way. The paint is thin in a few areas from all of the years of polishing, as such it will need a re-spray. It also looks like one of the previous owners put 85-86 decals on it. I have to say, I actually like how those look better.

So being a child of the 80's, I always loved the look of the Maroon Monte Carlo cars from that time, however always loved the power of the turbo Buick Grand National. With this build I am going to try to combine the best of both of my likes. I am going to remove the 305 in the Monte and replace with a new crate engine 350 with twin turbos. Getting a new radiator and going with a 700R4 trans. Also getting new disc brakes all around and installing some lowering springs to drop the car 1.5" to 2". I am aiming to keep the rest of the car stock. The interior is immaculate and has never been smoked in. The original radio was at one point removed and replaced with a single DIN. I am going to replace that with the original looking RetroSound NEW-264-269-660, only with modern technology like Bluetooth, etc.

Here is how she sits as now

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Posted By: PB86SS/87LS

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/05/17 04:23 PM

Looks like a great starting point, clean car! Interesting choice to use the 85/86 decals by the PO, looks like it had headlight covers at one point too.
Posted By: Hunter79764

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/05/17 04:33 PM

Welcome to the board.
Looks good, and sounds like a plan!
Posted By: Travis Jones

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/05/17 08:56 PM

Nice clean car. Good luck with the build.

Unless you're hellbent on a 350 for nostalgic 80's reasons, I'd strongly suggest you look into a 6.0L LS based motor with a 4L80e.

In the case of forced induction you'll be in a much better starting point cost wise with an LS based motor. 9.4-1 compression, aluminum heads. Fuel Injection from the factory.

Even if you do decide to go with a 350, for the power levels you'd be looking at twin turboed, a 700R4/4L60 is not the trans you want for those power levels.. 2-3 shift will be mush at WOT. even rebuilding the stock 200-4r for power is a better choice.
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/06/17 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by thepezking639
Nice clean car. Good luck with the build.

Unless you're hellbent on a 350 for nostalgic 80's reasons, I'd strongly suggest you look into a 6.0L LS based motor with a 4L80e.

In the case of forced induction you'll be in a much better starting point cost wise with an LS based motor. 9.4-1 compression, aluminum heads. Fuel Injection from the factory.

Even if you do decide to go with a 350, for the power levels you'd be looking at twin turboed, a 700R4/4L60 is not the trans you want for those power levels.. 2-3 shift will be mush at WOT. even rebuilding the stock 200-4r for power is a better choice.


Thank You for the advice. I am using the 350 as I have it on hand and purchased for an amazing price. Also there is a little 80's nostalgia there too, as this car is built in a way I wish GM would have made a Monte to compete with a Grand National back at that time. I chose the 700R4 as I have one on hand and it is being re-built currently. We have a Good shop in town which does this and we are having him re-build using the heavy duty option he offers. I will try it and if over time this trans annoys me, I will try something different.

Josh
Posted By: upflying

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/06/17 03:00 PM

Don't forget to keep the stock parts, that's a clean survivor and you might want to go back to stock some day. Stock and original is generally worth more when you sell.
BTW, those door dents are from a someone using their body to close a partially shut door. Stubborn door closing is often caused by sagging hinges which causes a misalign at the door striker. Then some fat ash tries to close the door all he way by pushing on the door panel. Shameful abuse by careless people. My car had those dents too.
Posted By: Witness86SS

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/06/17 06:30 PM

my kids keep trying to make those dents. No you don't need a running start to close the door...
Posted By: tigerss

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/08/17 12:30 AM

Nice car

I prefer the 86 stripes so I might consider that option when I repaint my 88. It does hurt my brain a little to think of 86 stripes on an 88 though.

I think its more weird he swapped stripes on a sub 30k car more so then that somebody would change them.
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/08/17 02:55 AM

As we wait for parts to come in, we started to sand it down and prepare for the re-spray today

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Posted By: mmc427ss

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/08/17 05:07 AM

Very nice pallet to start with.
As you prep the car for paint don't forget it's lacquer originally.
Bob
Posted By: gmachinz

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/09/17 12:02 AM

Umm...wait a minute-how bad was the OE finish? I'm surprised you "getting at it" paintwise when it looked pretty damn good in the pics you posted.
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/09/17 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by gmachinz
Umm...wait a minute-how bad was the OE finish? I'm surprised you "getting at it" paintwise when it looked pretty damn good in the pics you posted.


Not Great and there we several small dents throughout, especially on the doors. Speaking of the doors, there were some small rust spots on the corners, about the size of nickel as well. I want to fix those properly.

Josh
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/09/17 01:34 PM

Continued sanding today. Making progress

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Posted By: Richie Cat

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/09/17 03:33 PM

Got to ask. Is that a chopped 49 Merc in the background?
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/09/17 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Richie Cat
Got to ask. Is that a chopped 49 Merc in the background?


It is a 51 with a 49 window
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/12/17 01:34 PM

And More Sanding.....lol

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Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/19/17 01:12 PM

Continuing to sand and prep. Needed just a little filler on pillars at the factory weld seam. Also just a touch in a couple of spots on the lowers doors where some minor rust was repaired. This car is remarkably clean for a 29 year-old car. I guess that makes sense since it is from Texas.

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Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/19/17 01:14 PM

Got the engine and trans out. The intercooler also arrived.

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Posted By: Hunter79764

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/19/17 11:02 PM

Making quick work of it! You've done in 2 weeks what I would have done in 2 years smile
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/22/17 03:01 PM

Finally finished sanding and prep. Then primed.

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Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/22/17 03:04 PM

Radiator and Intercooler painted

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Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/22/17 03:07 PM

Basic mock up of the Twin Turbo 350 going in the car

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Posted By: Richie Cat

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/22/17 06:29 PM

Can you give us some info on the engine build? Also the exhaust "headers" and turbos? Being it's a mock up is this a dummy engine also?
Posted By: 84ss355*4spd

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/23/17 10:39 PM

Good job.tjat motor looks like would be fun . Keep the pics coming
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/24/17 12:47 AM

Time for a "Block Party!". Started to block it today. Found a couple of small areas which will need some attention. Other than that, all is coming along nicely. After blocking, we are going to strip the engine bay and re-paint that. Then install the engine before final paint.

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Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/26/17 09:11 PM

Getting the engine bay prepped for new paint, before we drop the engine and trans in

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Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/28/17 06:30 PM

The 350 is installed. Test fitting the turbos. The company I purchased the kit from sent the wrong headers. Have to send these ones back. Going to create around a two-week delay in this part of the project to get the correct headers in. We will continue to focus on the new paint and the four wheel disc brake install.

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Posted By: PB86SS/87LS

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/28/17 08:02 PM

You work quick! From only getting the car a couple months ago or so to this.
Posted By: 84 ZZ4

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 12/29/17 10:37 PM

Awesome build.
I hope you get out of paint-jail and engine-jail soon.
I'm curious what you have planned for engine bay heat management.
Air vents, etc.
I highly recommend jet-hot coatings on any of the headers, etc, they coat inside and out, I can touch my headers literally minutes after driving.
HTH
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 01/17/18 02:09 AM

Car got painted a couple of weeks a go. Now starting on the wet sanding and buffing. Waiting for correct headers to come in

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Posted By: mmc427ss

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 01/17/18 03:46 AM

That's a very nice shop you have there, all those cars/bikes in process must keep you busy. Is the SS a keeper?
Bob
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 01/18/18 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by mmc427ss
That's a very nice shop you have there, all those cars/bikes in process must keep you busy. Is the SS a keeper?
Bob


I am planning to keep it for a few months, however I do plan to sell after

Josh
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 01/21/18 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by mmc427ss
That's a very nice shop you have there, all those cars/bikes in process must keep you busy. Is the SS a keeper?
Bob


Also, this is not my shop. This is at a custom car shop called Pot O'Gold Kustoms. They do excellent work and have been featured on Velocity Channel. Great place and Great people!

Josh

Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 02/16/18 03:23 PM

Fired up the engine yesterday and it flat out sounds EVIL! Also decided to add a FiTech fuel injection system to it. Getting closing to finishing it. Getting the inter-cooler plumbing work done next week

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Posted By: ratbuddy

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 02/16/18 11:15 PM

Very nice! Is it this system? http://fitechefi.com/products/30004/
Posted By: Witness86SS

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 02/17/18 12:44 AM

how much are you planning on selling it for?
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 02/17/18 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by ratbuddy
Very nice! Is it this system? http://fitechefi.com/products/30004/


I believe it is. I will check next week when I am at the shop.

Josh
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 02/17/18 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by Witness86SS
how much are you planning on selling it for?


Not sure yet Justin. Once the project is complete and all bugs ironed out, I will take a look at my total investment in it and come up with a sales price

Josh
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 03/02/18 11:36 PM

Engine is fully installed as are the dual turbos and inter-cooler. Still some tuning to do. Wow, Does this thing haul xxxx !

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Posted By: 84ss355*4spd

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 03/06/18 12:10 AM

Looks sly .i bet it shreds the tires . I am debating some turbos on my 84 when its drivetrain time
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 04/18/18 04:02 PM

We are nearing completion on the project. I will post some updated pictures soon

Josh
Posted By: Travis Jones

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 04/19/18 07:02 PM

how are you controlling spark with a big cap distributor like that?
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 04/20/18 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by thepezking639
how are you controlling spark with a big cap distributor like that?


It is an HEI. Works well with the FiTech

Josh
Posted By: mvp

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 04/21/18 04:35 AM

Well done no time was wasted on this one. the 350 with twin turbos is something I wasn't expecting. Great work!
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 04/24/18 10:23 PM

Some people have asked if I plan to sell this car once complete. After some thought, I actually would entertain trades for it. If you are interested, please email me at

beatboy77@yahoo.com

Thank You,

Josh
Posted By: beatboy77

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 06/16/18 12:54 PM

Just about done with this build. Just some tuning and we should be Good. Have taken it to a couple of car shows already and the response has been Amazing smile

Josh
Posted By: 84ss355*4spd

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 06/17/18 02:02 PM

Is the motor beefed up to handle the turbos. I bet the reactions were great at the car show. Should post more pics of the car and a vid of it running lol.
Posted By: Richie Cat

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 06/17/18 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by 84ss355*4spd
Is the motor beefed up to handle the turbos.


Well this isn't Sponge Bob building it. LOL.
Posted By: 84ss355*4spd

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 06/18/18 01:02 PM

I should of said what was done to beef it up.u dont need to be a dick ritchie cat.how do you know who sponge bob is lmao .
Posted By: Richie Cat

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 06/18/18 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by 84ss355*4spd
I should of said what was done to beef it up.u dont need to be a dick ritchie cat.how do you know who sponge bob is lmao .


Sorry to get under your skin. My comment was meant to be a joke.
Posted By: 84ss355*4spd

Re: Turbo Monte 88 SS Build - 06/19/18 12:56 PM

Ya no worries . I deserved it lol .sounded like a noob
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